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I'm new to the 40k world, and don't really have any previous modelling/painting experience. I'm currently looking at building either a Guard or Space Marine army, starting at a low point level then building up.
The guard are going to have way more units, I was wondering, are they (relatively) easier to paint then marines? Assuming I go troop heavy (say 80 odd units), how much time should I be looking to at before I can get a painted army up and running?
Also, can you run mutiple guard units together (ie. Cadians & Catachans), or is that generally frowned upon?
I would say ONE marine is easier to paint then ONE guardsman. if you are a weakwilled painter like me, build your IG army REAL SLOW and paint one unit before you buy another
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With marines you can get away with spraying them all one color, inking them, then adding a few colors for Details. With IG, it's a little more complicated as there're more surfaces to paint. Where as the average marine is all-powerarmor with a gun, maybe the odd purity seal here and there, guardsmen have armor, fatigues, leather, the gun and exposed flesh. So, a guardsman army will probably take longer and more labor intensive to paint.
However, we play guard. The pain is goood.
I just started my guard army recently and I agree that pacing yourself is good advice. Buy one unit at a time and 'reward' yourself with a new one once you've finished painting them. The 25 men needed for one troop choice can be daunting enough, let alone 80 guys all at once. It's been taking about 30 minutes to an hour for each guy from cutting the bits off the spru to a finished model.
As for IG vs. Space marines. The SM would probably take less time since their squads are 5-10 men instead of 25. I can't compare 1 to 1 since I haven't painted marines, but you at least save some time on the numbers alone.
Hope that helps a bit.
right, first off i am mainly a painter as opposed to a gamer and spend about 95% of my warhammer time painting or moddeling
i have painted both space wolves and catachans and can say that IMO the catachans are MUCH easier to paint. you can get away with a liberal application of ink on camo n flesh but not on those light space marine colours. i usually paint my guard in groups of 7-9 models whereas with my SW its a mere 3-5. obviously theres less SW than there is guardsmen but you get the point. i find the catachans easier to paint.
however saying all this the space wolves are no normal marine models because half of them have bare heads, then theres the totems, pelts, power weapons/fists, pack leaders etc so maybe thats why my SW take longer to paint. its also worth noting that space marines are obviously larger than guardsmen have a much wider surface area to paint.
ive never painted a normal space marine in my life. and ive never painted those nice looking cadians either, but ive always thought that cadians would be easier to paint for me becuase of the lack of flesh and their uniform apearance.
so yeah... i'd disagree with a few people in this thread and say that guardsmen are IMO easier to paint than marines. however theres a helluva lot more of them in the first place... :rolleyes:
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it depends on how detailed you paint them, if you just spray a mariene adn add what ever, then the model will look really bad, but if you take time, then a marien can potentailly take more time and concentration then a guardsmen
Ah, starting a new army?
First and foremost on learning to paint: If you're not an experienced painter, don't waste your money on Citadel paint at your gaming store. The extra money won't improve the look of your models if you don't have practice applying it well. Instead, you can spend about 1/10th as much on regular acrylic paint at a local craft store (AC Moore, around here) and still have really great minis with some practice.
Second, you'll spend a LOT longer painting Guardsmen due to their great detail and larger numbers. There is a way to cheat, I suppose...if you're planning on using the Special Equipment Doctrine "Cameleoline," you could ignore all the details and just paint on a camouflage scheme that belnds in with the terrain on the table you play on most.
Test it out by leaving your Guardsmen around the house. Ask everyone at dinner if they noticed them...if no one did, you've done it right!
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Well, agreed, Space Wolves have alot of bits on them, but having painted both Vanilla Marines (Old Custom Chapter) and IG, the Marines were far easier. Of course, in my defense, I sprayed them black, added gunmetal and color on the eyes and eagles, and that was basically it. They were supposed to be black omnious badasses and having next to no color... Though detail if you looked... Got the job done. My IG, the Xavian 8th Regiment, took more time. Again I sprayed them black but I colored the fatigues a dark green, with minimal highlights. The extra time came in the abundance of additional detail. Bags, knives, boots, belts, etc. all deserved a little extra attention than ceramite armor.
Now, if you ENJOY painting IG, then naturally it'll go faster than painting SMs.
i thinking painting IG is easier because their are so many modelas that they dont have to be painted with alot of detail. with marines their are few models so they should look realy good.
Thanks for all the replies! I'm leaning towards IG right now, though the actual purchase of the models is still a ways off (time constraints). This will give me more models to build up my skill with before I tackle anything else. Would you recommend building an army list before buying? Or just buying a box of say Catachan troops, and just working my way from there. I think it would be fun to do a drop troop army that focuses on mobility (all troops can deep-strike) equipped with flamers and meltas, but it sounds like a list like that would just get killed.