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Just a quick thread. I watched a game at my local GW store, a guy was using Imperial Guard, he only took Guardsmen and well, they seemed useless. He couldnt field anything else as it was a low points game, i dont want people asking me about the game, i just want to know your experiences with standalone Platoons of Guardsmen.
Yeah, thats what i thought until i watched this game, but he just couldnt seem to so anything usefull with his Guardsmen, due to low BS and low Strength. Have you had better luck with them? What do you take in 1000pts?
I'm not positive on how many men I'd have in 1000 points, as I like to take Doctrines such as Light Infantry, Sharp Shooters, and the likes, so, they tend to be slightly more expensive than your average Guard Platoon.
Well they werent useless as such, but he got massacred, do you count that as useless? Basically, can an Imperial Guard army win without the big guns, like tanks, and the heavy weapons? Also if i were to start an Imperial Guard army, i dont want to use Ratlings, Riders or Ogryns. Some people say to use a Codex effectively you should use all aspects of it, obviously in this case i dont want to, do i have a chance or not?
More than a chance. Most IG players don't use any of the three, and in fact sometimes count Ratlings and Ogryns (especially Ogryns) as being "useless" in the sense that it is very, very difficult to find a situation where the points spent on them will be worth it in your game.Also if i were to start an Imperial Guard army, i dont want to use Ratlings, Riders or Ogryns. Some people say to use a Codex effectively you should use all aspects of it, obviously in this case i dont want to, do i have a chance or not?
If you take a browse through the lists in the Army Lists subforum, you'll see that most people don't use those three units very often.
Yeah i have just had a quick look, one guy took 10 Ratlings and was advised to drop them. One last question, on average how many heavy weapons do you take in 1000pts? If you know off hand, what are they?
Maybe it was just a bad first impression of Guardsmen, he must have been unlucky, because even i thought that many Lasguns should pull something off!
Thanks a bunch Lost!
That's what it seems like to me, that, and he may not have had a rock-solid army list in the first place. If you just have a bunch of plain ol' Guardsmen, you won't get very much done.Maybe it was just a bad first impression of Guardsmen, he must have been unlucky, because even i thought that many Lasguns should pull something off!
Sharpshooters is a great add-on for Guardsmen, especially those with special and heavy weapons.
However, special and heavy weapons should always be included in your squads, in my book. They are the main firepower of any Imperial Guard army, and definitely achieve things when aimed at the enemy.
The heavy weapons I tend to throw in the most are the Heavy Bolter, Autocannon, Missile Launcher, and Lascannon. Plasma Guns are the "main" special weapon of most IG armies these days, so that they can effectively combat MEQs.