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I would just like to solve an age old warhammer problem for everyone. Through the magic of fighting fire with fire.
If you ever feel you have a problem with rules lawyering just use the following line: (only works when vsing Marines [thus why its in the marine forum], I can find things more damaging to other races later).
-Nowhere in the rulebook or the Codex does it define what a Space Marine is. Thus going by the letter of the rules no marine can ever benefit from And They Shall Know No Fear and several pieves of wargear (for example banners only affect Space Marine units).
I know you would never play by these rules but if anyone does go to the extreme rules lawyering simply hit them with that, technically its correct although by comon sense it is VERY wrong. It proves sometimes you have to use common sense when playing warhammer.
PS: If a mod believes this should be somewhere else feel free to move it.
Clip-clop-clip-clop. Can I hear hooves? Must be someone on their high horse?
No more NG spearmen, thanks! Now I need some pump-wagons!
Huh? that flew right over my head. What did that post mean? an insult?
Um, I'm not sure... It IS really annoying to deal with rules lawyers. Particularly ones who hang around in earshot of a game and offer their opinions, welcome or not. Said rules lawyers often do not ever bring their armies to the store and prefer to just heckle unwary players with their knowledge.
I'm an American, religious, male and a proud Republican. You have your beliefs and (gasp) I have mine. Deal with it!Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Page 74 of the WH40K rule book: Space Marines...
Every unit has space marines in it, and thus gains the special rule ATSKNF, as discribed in the WH40K rule book, and the space marine codex.
Except terminators, chaplains/Librarains, and techmarines..
Har Har, but this is just an over sight.
One could also argue that in the space marine codex, it does not mention termintors as wearing termintor armour.
All space marine units have some mention to asosiation with space marines, such as the skillz section of the termintor profile, where it declares them to be space marines.
But these are assumed rules.
I think its time for you to get off your high horse now, and go beg a mod to close this thread.
aye I've gone a bit to far I think. I'll let everyone deal with rules lawyers in their own way.
Oh well goodbye everyone and please hold back on the negative rep. I had good intentions and thats what counts right?
I've never had a problem with rules lawyers (but then i have been known as one in other systems...)
Why not have someone on hand to help with rules, they're there for a reason if you get them wrong, you are missing out in my opinion. I'd rather have 5 lawyers watching my games than none...
I'm a rules lawyer and proudly so. You don't go play a game be it football, basketball, checkers or warhammer and not know the rules. I don't play basketball and allow one guy to score his basket at 4 pts. instead of 2 or allow him to run with the ball just like I wouldn't allow someone to move a unit more then they are suppose to or do anything else outside the rules of the game. The more you know the rules the less likely you are to be cheated and unfortunately I've witnessed quite a few who would cheat their own mothers just to win a friendly game in a shop.
That being said I never offer my rules knowledge to a game I'm not playing in unless someone is asking or someone is blatantly cheating another player, and i've seen grown adults cheat kids which is awful behavior.
Last edited by rodgambit; November 1st, 2006 at 16:49.
There's a big differance between enforcing the rules and intentionaly looking for accidental loopholes created by an imperfect GW. Stopping cheating is fine, but occasionaly people just wasnt to play to different mutualy agreed upon rules. In thier games that's fine.
I wouldn't have a problem with you stopping cheating if you did it properly, but 'rules lawyering' although a part of the game (everyone exploits the rules to a degree) can go too far. Arguing that a Terminator doesn't have Terminator Armour is insane.
I play by the rules where they exist, but don't take things to extreme levels unless i'm angry with my opponent and want to complely smash him.
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