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So i've been hunting around in the Codex, and even went as far as to look in the FAQ's trying to find something stopping me from using a Techmarine with a Full Servo on a bike. My thought is to have him on a bike which gives him 4 Power Weapon attacks off a charge plus 2 from Power fists if he lives.
I feel for his pricing this makes him quite the handy HQ when upgraded and his re-roll on shooting could be applied to a Multi Melta on a attack bike really making the squad nasty. In addition, with the Sgt having a Power weapon/fist i think the squad would be pretty good in combat.
Before i actually take the time to do the conversion, wanted to see what people though. I'm figuring i'll convert the bike into a trike in order to add the bulk to support him, even debating making a small support vehicle type deal
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Techmarine on a bike? sure, sounds good actually. It would give him T5 in addition to all the good stuff you mentioned, so he wouold be very hard to wound. I also don't see why he wouldn't be able to take a bike.
It would prevent you from taking any servitors, but from what I understand you didn't want them anyway.
The conversion opportunities certainly sound very very interesting. you have given me an idea here
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This has been debated quite a bit. There's nothing explicitly in the rules saying you can or cannot take a full servo harness with a bike, term armour or jump packs. The only reference that I've heard of was on a GW website where one of the game designers said in passing that it was not possible to combine these upgrades. But there's been no FAQ or rule in the codex to clarify.
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hehe a 2+ invunerable save for your turbo boosting pretty damn nice. I like the idea. Should give you some nice conversion options. I would go and proxy him in a couple friendly games first. I don't know if its all that points efficient. Would be a shame to go through all that trouble just to have a model that your never going to use because it isnt effective enough.
I think it is the great big heavy servo harness rather than the artificer armour that is what would cause the 'cannot be on a bike' debate.
As the codex doesn't state otherwise, and no FAQs has been released to the contrary, I say go for it.
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While there may not be an offical ruling on Servo-Harness Bikers, you should consider using a bit of common sense. At the bottom of the Techmarine page (pg33) it has a little bit of info about the Servo-Harness.It states,Surely if a bike can't carry Terminator armour because of size issues, then a Servo-Harness (which is about the same size as Termie armour) also wouldn't fit.Originally Posted by Codex:Space Marines, page 33
I seriously don't understand why people don't just accept that it's not possible and deal with it.
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SO, if the armour can stabilize the marine, why can't it stabilize the bike too.Originally Posted by Codexpace Marines, page 33
...and is worn over power armour, connecting to its external ports...it overrides the power armour controls to maintain balance while handling massive weights...
I have thought about using this combination too, and it seems reallly cool to me, and it seems the best way for the techmarine to reach broken vehickes too., plus bikes are so cool. The only bad part is that you can't take servitors, so it wil be harder to fix your vehicles.
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Indeed. A Techmarine servo-harness is full of little stabilizing gyros and such. Built into the bike it'd be plenty stable.
So in answer to the question, ruleswise you can do it. Seeing that he has access to the armory and nothing says he can't have the bike.
And fluffwise I think it works as well. After all, this is not terminator armor. Terminator armor is like wearing a small tank and I don't think it can really be compared to a servo-harness at all except for the 2+ save.
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Turning a bike at high speed requires that the rider alters the center of gravity by leaning to either side., this is why you'll see racers lean to the side as they turn. If the bike is stabilized it will not lean, because that is not a stable position, it's a controlled instablility. True stability can only be assured when stationary.
While it might be possible to design a system that does allow that kind of control, the system would be even bulkier, also preventing it from being used on a bike.
The other year for the DARPA Challenge (US Defence's Pseudo-AI controlled vehicle challenge - running a specific course) one of the entries was a modified motorbike. It had absolutely no room for a rider, and had major steering issues; it had to be constantly making small turns to maintain it's vertical position. This meant that it could not travel very fast (also a major issue), and when it was required to make a larger turn it had to autocorrect before, during and especially after the turn so that it maintained a vertical position. The designers had spent 2 years and nearly $2m on a little 100CC trailbike and yet it still fell over after the second major turn, or the first bump, whichever came first.
I can't see the issue being any easier with a rider (constantly changing position) on the bike, let alone one who has no control over his balance because his armour has decided to take over.n
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