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My mate is collecting a DH army, and wanted me to collect an army too to play him (i have 4000pt Ogre WHF army)
I was just wondering is there a particular army out there that you guys struggle with?
DH struggle with anything that is vehicle heavy. Our Greyknights can thin out most horse armies with stormbolter fire, and are pretty tough in close combat hitting most things on threes and wounding on twos on our basic troop choice. The problems come in when we fight very hard hitting armies (dark eldar comes to mind), or armies with lots of armor>12. I haven't played new eldar yet, but I hear their vehicles are impossible for us to kill, and their harlies will dominate GKs in hand to hand.
I think the key in fighting daemonhunters is fighting an attrition war, where you can keep forcing us to lose models because we are not going to have very many. Also if you have the ability to split our forces up because again, we don't have the numbers to divide our firepower; we need to kill everything in one place and then move on to the next target--just make sure that you have a few high priority targets in your army, and the ability to deliver them, and cause some wounds.
Anything with lots of armor mate. But i wouldn't choose an army based on how good it will be against a certain army. Winning all the time would get boring. But yeah I guess anything with vectored engines and holo fields *cough* eldar *cough*
I realise that winning all the time wouldnt be great, but hes been playing 40k for 8 years, now, and im just about to start, so i need help somehow
so eldar or dark Eldar? Whats the differences in the armies that i could use to my advantage?
I was actually thinking of starting Dark Eldar myself but then the models didnt appeal to me so i scrapped that idea, maybe i'll wait until the new codex comes out in like 10 years haha.
But yeah the dark eldar absolutely destroy GK's if you play them right. I made my friend play GK's once while i proxied an entire 1500 point Dark eldar list and i absolutely annhilated my own 1500 point army in 3 turns...so yeah try it.
I would suggest Eldar.
They have a brand new codex, so there is no chance of having to buy a new one for quite some time. Also, there are some great additions to their model line since the release of their codex... and the Dark Eldar ones, really aren't that good at all.
It's worth a krak!
Tank Heavy IG. Ordnance Pie plates really aren't fun for your walking Grey Knights!:cry:
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See problem is there isnt a panacea.
Take the cries of Eldar above- but Eldar is quite a quirkey army, it is possible to go pretty boring and out skoot GKs but wouldnt be fun to play, but Eldar can be more interesting and fun however, then you introduce more skill required as a commander. Sure Eldar, configured right, can whoop GK but so can most armies, the trick is the configuration, and knowing your opponent. But if you are going to invest then I would suggest you want a bit more of a dimension
So, in the absence of you saying "I want a shooty army" or mobile/static/assault/elite/hoard then 2 things come to mind:
As diggums said - Imperial guard or perhaps Iron Warriors?
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May I suggest you start Chaos? DemonHunter and Chaos ... rivalry! :yes:
Your Demon Prince will have fun duelling out with his Grand Master, and your demons will get the sustain attack special rule against DH (only against DH). Chaos is a very fun army to play, they could either go very vanilla style just like every other marines out there, or go specialized like Eldars by taking different patron marked units.
** plus the rumour of new Chaos codex coming out at the end of this year! .. well I hope it's true and I couldnt wait **
Anima Tactics - try it out!
Well, I frown upon choosing an army specifically to counter your buddy's, but I guess whatever floats your boat. AP3 goodness is pretty anathema to Grey Knights. Chaos Iron Warriors are indeed a good choice for this. Chaos will do a good job against DH, long as you are careful about certain things. Keep in mind though, if your opponent gets wise and starts to use anti-Chaos wargear, things could get rougher. But even so, I still stand by the IG or Iron Warriors. Both have enough template firepower to make it a rough day to be a GK.
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