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I reckon that I am not really a nooby Imperial Guard commander, and am reasonably good in my gaming club. In the next few months, i am going to devote more of my time disecting army lists, and giving imperial guard advice...
(no match for triumph though...:shifty: )
So i thought this would be a good place to ask on asking for advice on how to give advice to noobs on Imperial Guard.:yes:
Looks like you are a noob at giving advice to noobs...:shifty: Sorry but I had to be a smarta$$.
It is easy, you look at their army list and analyse it with your experience, then tell them what you think they shoul add/change/take away to streamline the list and make it better, according to the purpose of the list.
The best way to learn about theory and tactics is simply to read as many threads as possible and play as many games as possible.
You'll soon find who the experts are in each area, and once you've identified them you can learn a great deal from them.
Be humble and gracious and with a bit of time, effort and perseverance you'll become a great sage and a great asset to the community.
I applaud your efforts even though I'm not sure it necessarily deserves a thread of its own.
Last edited by Karmoon; May 11th, 2007 at 10:07.
I am not exactlly sure how to quote
Can u take it off then pls? srrythis is a quote
Last edited by Cheredanine; May 11th, 2007 at 10:12.
At the bottom of each post you'll see three small grey buttons:
quote, edit and quote+
Naturally, just press the quote button of the post you wish to quote.
The other alternative is to copy and past and use the quote toolbar button when using the advanced post editor.
Thanks karmoon, I knew how to quote, but not multi-quote, didn't see it there...
Aren't there many people my age here???
or you can do it manually, I have put one in your last post, if you edit it (click on the edit button) you can see the syntax
The real trick for heklping people is not what you say but how you say it. half the time peopl;e put up army lists, not cos they want help, but because they think they are good, accordingly when someone posts and cuts it appart, it can really hurt and rather than listen to the advice, they will take offence
Even if they put it up wanting advice it can still be painfull when it gets shredded, so give advice politely, question rather than be too authorative eg:
"this is bad, do that" - doesnt help
"I understand what youare doing, but am not sure that that will be entirely effective, would it be better to do this?" - much better
Everything you have been told is a lie!
thanx, I think i am goign to generally start giving advice rather than asking for it, i think i shall also start writing tactica.:yes:
Have a look at the way I have given advice on the army lists.
Breaking down the list into its sections and making clear with numbered points really helps.
I have also found if you total the points that you would take out then give the at the end it helps.
Also once you have gone through the list suggest what they could do to make it better.
1) weed out the chaff (if you think it isnt to good but its personal preference then say so but dont cut it out)
2) Total up the points and suggest where they could be better spent
3) Give a little advice on big changes they could make
4) Give advice on the wisdom you use. It's al very well saying chnage this it is bad but say why and show that the choice you suggest is better. Here you will want to say how the improved list wil work onthe battlefield too.
I agree with Cheredanine, many don't like the advice you give. I've even had people have a go a me for pointing out glaring errors and illegalities. The best way to deal with this is to say form what you have said blah. If they say well I didn't want your advice my list is great then just say "if you didn't want advie why did you post asking for it?" repeat your main suggestions but hen leave the thread alone. Generally as soon as someone says this their thread dies.
Can't think of anything else at the moment but good luck!
Oh and a good trick is to know the effectiveness of the weapons and their worth for the points against different players. For example, knowing that you are just as likely to take out AV13 per point wiht an autocannon than a lascannon really helps.