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    Advice against Tyranid Gargantuan Creatures

    I have just lost a brill game against my regular opponent who runs a Tyranid horde. I was astonished to see a Barbed Hierodule placed down along with a Winged Tyrant and 2 Carnifex. I Killed the Tyrant and 1 'fex but the Hierodule took everything I through at it and proceded to cut down half my force. I was using 2 dev squads (hvy BG/PC & 4*LC),
    2 tac cbt squads 2 ls T 1 assault squad 1 whirlwind and a Tech Marine + 4 hb servitors.
    Any advice much appreciated.:cry:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Maxton View Post
    2 tac cbt squads 2 ls T 1 assault squad 1 whirlwind and a Tech Marine + 4 hb servitors.
    I'm not quite sure what you are taking here, maybe a full post in the army list section would be more helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBlueMan View Post
    I'm not quite sure what you are taking here

    Hmmm... Lemme see here...

    2 tactical combat squads, 2 landspeeder tornadoes, 1 assault squad, 1 whirlwind, and a Techmarine with 4 Heavy Bolter Servitors. Also 2 Dev Squads, 1 with Heavy Bolters and Plasma Cannons, 1 with 4 Lascannons.

    That sound about right, Lord Maxton???

    In any case, wow. A flying Tyrant, twin 'Fexes, and a Hierodule?? Yikes!

    Personally, I'd drop the Techmarine in favour of some sniper scouts. Between the HB/PC Devs and the Tacticals, you've got plenty of horde-thinning firepower handy, so you don't need the HB servitors so much.

    Snipers give you plenty of easy wounds against the big beasties, you just need to wait for failed saves. Toss in a Missile launcher for a little AP3 goodness.

    Try a Thunder Hammer on the Assault squad if they're gonna chase the big bugs - any wounds it causes force the bug to go at Initiative 1 next round... very handy.

    My personal tactics prefer a Predator with HB sponsons over the Whirlwind - comparable firepower, just applied somewhat more directly. I also like a Librarian with a Jump pack to go in and try to Force Weapon the big bugs - it's worked wonderfully for me in the past.

    EDIT: Wha?? .....Well, crap. Scratch that idea, then...

    Hope some of that helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    I also like a Librarian with a Jump pack to go in and try to Force Weapon the big bugs - it's worked wonderfully for me in the past.
    Tyranids are not affected by force weapons, it's in the most recent Tyranid FAQ. It's just a normal power weapon against bugs.
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    Assault Terminators with Thunder hammers work fairly well against big 'nids.
    Shut up and play.

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    My only problem with super heavies at this current time is that they unbalance things horrible as you've just experienced.

    It's great that you enjoyed the match, that's a testament to your great attitude.. but.. big things are designed to take on big things.

    Best wait till armageddon or apocalypse or what ever it is they're calling it around christmas time.
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    They are only immune to instant death if they are under synapse.
    A flying Tyrant will leave his slower moving buddies behind, so they can still be force weaponed to death. Still hard to even wound the buggers though..
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    I think the problem is really the heirodule, 2 mass points? statistically you need cause 4 wounds with Str8+ weaponry before you even start to hit its (absurd amount of) wounds.

    the key with marines against Gargantuan creatures is:

    Las cannon
    vindicators
    power fists (be careful, you will be lucky not to run due to outnumbered)

    I would have thought a termie squad may dig you out the hole, but otherwise, it is a rough one

    LC dev squads may manage it in three or so turns, pred annihs maybe?
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    ^what he said.

    Also, remember that you don't have to play against it if you don't want to. FW rules are strictly at opponents consent, because they are not necessarily balanced.

    Grab a pair of LC Devastator Squads, and sit back and blast the hell out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slobulous View Post
    Tyranids are not affected by force weapons, it's in the most recent Tyranid FAQ. It's just a normal power weapon against bugs.
    This is wrong, nids are effected by force weapons, they are immune to instakill, but force weapons do not cause instakill, check the FAQ. Libbys do work
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