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Okay i put this here cause i had some more questions and didn't wanna blog up the "quick HQ question" thread.
Close Order Drill: It conveys it to the entire platoon right? so that includes the command squad, and thus the juniour officer in it ? increasing his LD?
Heavy Weapon Teams: Just checking i got this right, both are armed with the heavy weapon? and both are needed to then fire it? they keep there other weapon, and may opt to use it instead. If both have the heavy weapon even with ccw's they will not gain bonus in combat? (I cant find the 2 handed weapon = no bonus rule in the book, pg number please!, this is just what i've been told, but as far as i see it just says you get one for having 2 single weapons)
Thanks in advance to anyone whose bothered to answer these thing
Okay I know what your refering to with the COD drill answer, but the way i read it is that if a unit (say a troop squad) are in CoD they cant add it to an officer leadership to get a boost. But if the Officer himself has +Ld it doesn't say that they cant use only his leadership which has been modified.
For the other bits I take it you agree that a heavy weapon platoon with ccw's and laspistols will get a bonus in combat? which is most cool
I dont think that is at all what he was trying to say. Correct me if i'm wrong, are, but i'm pretty sure he was trying to say (correct or not) that you can have two weapons. Total. So if one of those is a heavy weapon, there is no way you can also have 2 hth weapons. And you only get the bonus attack in hth if you have 2 hth weapons.For the other bits I take it you agree that a heavy weapon platoon with ccw's and laspistols will get a bonus in combat? which is most cool
As to the truth of it all, i'm now a little confused myself. I'm pretty sure this is the correct way of looking at it, however, but to double check you might want to ask over in the 40 rules forum instead.
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I have always played it as providing benefit to the Unit using COD only. I feel this interpretation fits the wording much more closely, doesn't leave me with buddies irritated over rules lawyering, and makes sense fluffwise as opposed to the alternative. Having your Officer stand shoulder to shoulder suddenly makes him more inspiring to a unit over the radio that may well not even be able to see him?Quote Codex Imperial Guard p 56 "Close order drill": "Note that the leadership bonus only applies if the unit's own leadership is used" Off course, with your interpretation there is no reason to not use a senior officers leadership, with close order drill bonus, through a master vox. I am not saying you _must_ be wrong, but just consider the consequence: You make voxcasters a very powerful item. But then, why not..
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When using the Warrior Weapons doctrine you are required to buy the upgrade for you heavy weapons teams. Wouldn't that mean that both the loader and the shooter of a heavy weapon team would have a las pistol and a ccw? I'm unable to find in any of the 40k books where it states that a heavy weapon is a two handed weapon or that the user must replace their base weapon with the heavy weapon. If anyone has seen anything to that effect please reference a book and page number. Also the army list entry lists lasguns for each of the six members of a heavy weapon team.
What do you call a lasgun with a laser sight?
Haha I know its a little silly but heres how i figured it out in my head.
The guardsmen might not feel more inspired by thier leader being shoulder to shoulder, but that doesn't mean the officer doesn't feel more confident having a bunch of men surrounding him
Basically i say he's more confident in close order drill, thus the LD bonus, which he conveys (how ever he chooses) to the troops
As for the Heavy Weapons the more i think the more i am convinced that the team of guardsmen share the 2-handed heavy weapon (essentially a 1 handed weapon each) then they are free to take 1 other 2 handed weapon, or should they choose 2 other 1 handed weapons.
The reason the Space Marine's replace there bolter with there new heavy weapon is because they have to carry it all by there lonesome.
Logically if 1 member of the team is killed the gun should be "unmovable" but thats not in the rules, so ye