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I would make this a poll, but can't remember all of them, so here it is
who is the all time best SM spec. Char and why?
I think Mephiston because of all those nasty things I hear he can do.
*sorry of someone already made a thread like this*
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Do you mean best in game of fluff wise?
If it's in game then I think Grimaldus is one of the best (maybe not THE best). Simply because he doesn't die unless he fails a test. He doesn't even die from instant death!
Fluff wise though, I'm not sure.
Black Templars 3000 points
Tau Empire 1750 points
Tyranids 1500 points
Hordes of Chaos *Coming soon*
You do know Grimaldus only gets to come back to life 1 time, right?
I always thought Shrike was pretty kewl. Mainly because he gets +12 points for the awesome name. "Captain Shrike." Hehe. Boosh.
Then again, Mephiston always appealed to me - not just because he's a good character game-wise (and even better recently) but his origin story struck me as particularly indicative as long as it's related properly. Looking at him one way, he's a tragic character treading the thin line between heroism and bestial oblivion, but look at him the other way and he's Emo Vampire Superman. You need to play him right. Less "Oh, woe is me who has this fantastic power coupled to this terrible curse" and more actual creepy barely-controlled insanity, like "Gee, I sure like the taste of human liver in the morning. Wait, that's socially unacceptable. Sword! Formal wear includes sword! Look at my hood! Look at my pimped-out hood! It is psychic!!!" *Smite*
The ones in the 4th edition codex pleased me. Lysander was nice and characterful without being broken (thunder-hammer IC's can never be broken), and see above for Shrike. Also always liked the idea of the Emperor's Champion - a faceless, endlessly reincarnated war hero.
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Lysander, just for his deep strike rule :yes:
I've got two. First one being Captain Shrike. I've never ever seen him used in combat just reading his backstory and the fact he's able to take a kickarse bodyguard, and if I remeber correctly has a pair of rending Lightning Claws (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he does). Also he has a wicked looking model to boot. In terms of power, the new Mephiston rules make him absolutely godly.
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THE NEW MEPHISTON ALL THE WAY. He is seriously the closest thing to a Primarch with all the crazy things he can do. I mean... I don't want to give it away but... He is so kick ass it makes me wish I played Blood Angels instead of Dark Angels, Ezekiel sucks so badly compared to Mephiston, he's the most unfair psyker I've ever seen, though I only started in 3rd edition. Even Eldar and Thousand Sons psykers have NOTHING on Mephiston when it comes to psychic powers. It really isn't realistic... I mean Tzeentch psykers have had millenia to study and Eldar have at least had one or two, yet a marine like what... five centuries or something years old can use powers better than them.... Plus the Grey Knights can use their brothers as psychic foci for even more power but they suck compared to him too... I think that the other psykers need more, especially Tzeentch and Grey Knights, sorry for the tangent, it was unnecessary but I had to say it somewhere.
Mephiston is god, he could kick any characters ass just using his powers and melee, he doesn't even need the stinking gun anymore.
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anyways... fluff wise.. its easily ragnar blackmane and i dont know about game-wise... lysander seems to have a nice characterful special rule like.
i hope logan grimnar will be beefed up in the next SW codex... everyone has been beefed except him and the current 250pts for 1 half-good HQ is poooooor atm
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Based purely on stats and abilities, Azreal is probably one of the best characters around. Hes pretty darn epic. Fluff wise, few would be considered his Equal, as a chapter master he has a depth of experience which out reaches even the most skilled captains.
In combat he is brutal, fearless, and cunning. If it is one thing the DA codex did well, it was make Azreal. He's one of the few chapter masters to actually face abbadon on the battle field, and one of the even fewer to actually win. Sure some of you fluff masters will point out that a Phoenix lord happened to show up on Azraels team, but meh..
In pure combat, fluff wise, Ragnar is probably the single best space marine warrior who is currently alive.
Shrike is pretty neat, but spending years behind enemy ork lines probably messed with his head. Oh and LC with rending that are MC are fun too.
Azreal is cool forged, don't get me wrong, but your a DA so your biased towards him. On stats and abilities it sounds like our Bloody Brother's Mephiston takes the cake.
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