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i was comparing stern and a grand mster stats in the codex and noticed that the grand amster is much better. Which would you prefer?
Grand Master, hands down.
This is how they compare:
B.C. Stern + 4 Terminators=325 points
Grand Master w/ Grimoire and Hammerhand + 4 Terminators w/ Holocaust=359
What do the 34 points buy you?
+1 Wound, +1 Attack, and the ability to buy 90 more points worth of wargear (100 - Grimoire).
Not only that, but you don't need anyone's permission to take a Grand Master.
By the way, almost everyone I've seen play GKs uses the B.C. Stern model as their Grand Master. I know I do.
brother captain sterns cheaper (normally) than most grandmasters and he gets to use his NFW like a grandmaster (in a pure DH army) and is quite good himself with rules like strands of fate.
But doesnt the grand master have better stats? Im thinkin ill get a Brother captain stern and ill make him my grand master. This way, ill have more wounds and all.
Grandmaster all the way. First you dont have to have permission to use him, and he is tournament legal. Second you can not add different weapons, and fluff to Stern.
Thanx guys, that was very helpful
one more question, in the codex: daemonhunters page 23, it says the greyknight heroes retinue does not take up one of the hq slots. so, does this mean i get to CHOOSE if it counts as the hq choice, or will i have to use someting else for the hq?
The Grey Knight Hero is the HQ choice. It's up to you whether or not you want him to have a retinue, but if you decide you want one, it takes up no slots in the force organization chart.
ok, i get it, thanx
This is how many people get to take 4 squads of terminators, I just thought of something it says you can only have one GM or IL right but can you have 2 B.C.'s so you could take 5 Terminator squads or a B.C. and a GM?