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I live in the Toronto area, I won't mention which games workshop i go to, but I feel as a veteran gamer I am being ignored in favour of new blood. I was wondering if you guys have had similar experiences at the stores you go to?
To be more precise on what i have been ignored on is the fact that the store I go to only has veteran gaming night on Tuesdays for warhammer, and i find after coming home from a days work i don't feel like going in, so I go in on Saturdays to play games. Now I get the feeling that I can't come in to play, because the manager at this store tend to frown on staff playing against veteran players, and the new young gamers get first dibs on tables.
I had two friends who started playing a game, and at the bottom of the first turn the manager came up to them and said he might have to ask them to rap it up early since a new player wants to have a staff challenge. I also ask him if I could play a game with another buddy of mine there, and he said that table was reserved for another staff challenge, and they didn't even start for about an hour and half after I asked him. I find this offensive as I have put 10 years into this hobby and now I can't play because some new kids who will only be in the hobby for about a year or two gets first picks when he wants to play a game.
Do any of you guys feel the same way when you go into a store to play? I keep getting the feeling that they only think were there to hang out, but in fact I'm waiting for someone to come in to play a game with, and since few people come in, and staff challenges are reserved for new players only, I can't get any games in anymore, so i was thinking of switching to a new store in the Toronto area, do any of the gamers in the Toronto area who play fantasy have a certain store they enjoy playing at, if so I may give that store a try and leave my current one I go to.
Im from toronto and go to the Eaton's centre store mostly. I haven't played a game there in several years. ive turned to lurking there and ive noticed that kind of stuff lately. its kind of lame. i remember Ash(the old store manager) talking about another store that rocks but i can never remember the name of the store.
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Funny, here in Montreal the only GW store is also in the Eaton's center... damned Eatons-GW conspiracy!
Anyway, I've also noticed that too, but most of it can be explained by the simple and unfortunate fact that GW stores are there to make money, not "pamper" to gamers -- and the way they make money is by getting these new kids who will only ever have a passing fancy with the hobby to fork over a few hundred bucks. Having vets, who don't really spend as much money, who are pretty much done collecting and who only want some place to play games, isn't top priority for them. Unfortunately there aren't many other places around where you can go and expect to find a group of gamers who'd be down for a pickup game. So that leaves a lot of people in the lurch.
If there are any non-GW hobby stores around with tables, try them out, otherwise I don't know. Fortunately I don't have to deal with that much, I've never seen all 3 tables at my local GW being played on at the same time. Lots of kids, though...
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this will just continue to happen,
it's what happens in every single store (this is me being a pessimist)
when i go to GW , and that is rarely i have to wait until all the little young bloods have disappeared from the store before me and my mates can even consider playing a game. its quite hilarious.
thats why me and about 50 others left the store and now play in a gaming club that we ourselves run. now when we do pop in were asked for games.
from one extreme to another but alas we've lost our love for the social experiences we had in GW and just order online.
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GW did this in the UK, but alongside it set up a gaming club network to help gamers start their own clubs and provide information on how to approach it.
GW stores just can't cater to every single person's needs. As a focal point for the younger gamer, it often turns off the older gamers in the process. As a shop and gaming club, it ultimately has two roles to perform, one of which keeps the staff employed by the company .
Limited space, particularly due to being a retail outlet (with hefty rent), means that a lot of GWs aren't ideal for housing a lot of people who want to use their tables.
Ultimately, gamers have to get out there and find a place that is better suited to them. You 'graduate' from GW to somewhere that is more your style.
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This is a shame, to be sure. Consider looking for local stores that aren't GW, I've had great experiences with a couple non-affiliated stores that just sell GW stuff. Perhaps as a veteran gamer you could float the idea of an independent weekend club with fellow veterans.
Its pretty much the same at every GW store. Think of the stores as a place to sell their stuff and draw in new blood, not much else. Most veterans get sick of it and dont go back except for the rare purchase. If you have a local hobby store with tables I would consider going there. If not, you know from this thread there is at least one other player near you. You could try to get together at someone's house or find a place to meet. Bring some friends and before you know it, you have a club. Surely someone will have the space for a table, and you can all have fun chipping in on building it.
My gaming group occasionally meets at the local hobby shop, but we have built a table at my house and that has become the place we play most. If you have the space, homes are nice since you wont have to deal with anyone you dont want, have beer and pizza handy, and a tv for those who arent playing at the moment. I have found that with 6 to 8 regular players, you never miss the GW store.
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Hey, at least you have a store to play in. My nearest hobby store is an hour drive away, and with gas prices what they are...I rarely get there at all.
Why don't you ask the manager if you can play against the new guys too? It seems to me he wants to encourage new players, and what better way to do that then have a 10 year veteran teach them some tricks?
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I dont even have a GW in my country the nearest ones about 6 hours away!
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Actually that's a good idea to get the veterans to play against the new people but the GW staff probably wouldn't be too keen. The new players would realise just how much better a lot of vets are than most of the staff, and they aren't continually trying to sell you the latest new army. If they were I would be a bit worried!
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