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My friends think all warhammer fans are nerds, this is not true, I'm a massive cricket and AFL fan. I probably spent 1/4 of my life playing/watching/learning about sport. I'm sure I'm not the only one here (well i hope), speak up guys.
Also how much does warhammer mean to you and how much time do you spend on it. Warhammer is more of a friend thing and in the holidays when i'm too tired to play sport, maybe i'll paint while watching cricket and stuff. I spend around 2 hours a week on warhammer in the holiday while around 15 minutes a week normally. What about you?
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Well I'm not the sterotypical unwashed, thinks warhammer is real and thinks he's better than everyone else nerd-nerd but I am happy to admit I am a nerd of a less extreme variety.
I wash, play guitar, like cricket, socialise with "normal" people and they wouldn't tell that I'm a gamer unless I told them or they came into my room and noticed the rulebooks, chariots and half painted dragon. I am happy to admit that I have some nerdish interests like gaming and sci fi and I think everyone should be a mild nerd. It's fun!
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I've taught private lessons for snowboarding and tennis, broken ribs taking jumps on sleds and tubes, been to the ER multiple times working in a lumber yard, and still get roped into cutting fire-wood every year round this time - but I'm also a hardcore geek by admission, so take it all for what it's worth =P.
These days I spend quite a bit of time centered around Warhammer, but I'm working part time in a game shop and helping organize tournaments and such - comes w/the territory.
Last edited by Courtsloth; December 1st, 2007 at 20:37.
As said before, you can be a geek (nerd or whatever people are calling it) and still do the non-stereotypical geek activities.
I'm a geek and love it.
Last edited by Lost Nemesis; December 3rd, 2007 at 17:20.
Yes, we are all neerds... love the game, hate the smell
Myes. Don't even try to deny it. You collect and paint plastic men, then make pretend like you're commanding an army accompanied by the rolling and calculation of various dice.
It's important you get your definitions straight. A nerd doesn't mean you're a geek. You can have social nerds; you can have sports nerds. All that's required for you to be a nerd is for you to know a large amount about any one subject. So if you, say, memorised the test scores of ten year's worth of cricket games, it doesn't matter whether you play DnD or football - you're a sports nerd.
A geek, however, is a socially inept and awkward person who has fascinatingly boring conversations with people about subjects that make them feel vaguely uncomfortable. If you, like, walk up to random people on the street and start chatting about your Tau army or your level 68 Night Elf Hunter despite them being totally uninterested, you're a geek. If you just follow a conversation where it goes instead of forcing it into a subject your companion is ignorant about, you're not a geek, you're probably just a nerd.
Nerds know things, and geeks also know things, but try to show off how much they know to impress people, and fail miserably. Nerds who try to show off and succeed, such as yours truly, are "smart arses", and are often punched in their smugly grinning mouth at pubs for making everyone in the vicinity look stupid.
That said, I dated a girl for five weeks without letting her in my bedroom (we used her house) because my Space Marines were sprawled unpainted on the desk and piles of Terry Pratchett and George R. R. Martin were stacked around my bed. Whose covers were decorated with Batman. If she caught me reading a comic, I just told her I was "bored" and would like to "go get coffee or something", thus neatly diverting the discussion to a less embarassing topic. There are some things you just don't tell people face-to-face.
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I don't think so. Despite the fact that I love spending boatloads of cash on plastic men, and then consequently spending days putting them together and playing a futuristic wargame, I still manage to have a life beyond that. The fact however, that I do play this futuristic wargame isn't very well publicized unless someone finds out.
In the nerd/geek discussion, I agree with ze_poodle, and I completely relate with his situation. The fact that we do play this game doesn't mean we are all socially inept people, and I'm sure that if we all met each other on the street, the large majority of us wouldn't have been able to guess that we all have a bit of a fetish for painting men.
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I play WoW, Halo (my Halo parties are kickin', seriously), 40k, older RPG titles, Warcraft, many more video games, and also got great grades in school with challenging courses. Yeah, I'm a nerd. But I'm a nerd who can probably kick someone's arse if it comes down to it, so I'm personally indifferent...
I suppose my question has to be "why does it matter?"
Sure, we can spout of the technical differences between "nerd" and "geek" but at the end of the day the meaning and value of these words correlates directly to the level of importance with which you have attributed the opinion of the person delivering them.
For example, my good friend and most frequent gaming partner is a Firefighter and family man. He has an exceptionally stressful job and, when he's not busy running toward things the rest of us run away from, he and his wife do an amazing job raising their child. So when he needs to blow off steam and relax, he gives me a ring and we'll "geek out" and, when time allows, I'll head up to his place for a fun-filled "dork day."
So when he calls me a geek, should I take offense that he called me a geek instead of a nerd? No, because the context of the remark was beyond complimentary, and so it is taken.
On the other hand, if we happen to be geeking it up in any kind of public venue and someone decides to crack a remark of "what a couple of dorks" it becomes a different story. Whoever made the remark is unknown to me - better yet, whoever made the remark just did me the kindness of telling me they're not worth my knowing. I can safely ignore that person for the rest of my life and move on - that person was probably a dweeb anyway.
My point is these labels, like all labels, don't truly matter. If someone you know and care about slings one of these labels your way, you have to decide if they meant it in earnest or in jest. If it was in jest, shrug it off or throw some back their way. If they meant it in earnest, either address the issue with them or re-evaluate where they stand with you. Or just shrug it off.
In our hobby, these labels are typically worn as badges of honor, such as using one's extensive fluff knowledge to "out-geek the geeks" or pulling random rules from memory to earn one the title of "king of the nerds" (sorry, Rork). Sure, we seem to run into the deodorant-averse more often in this hobby than otherwise, but those guy are easy enough to avoid. You run into unpleasant folks in any activity.
That's the true beauty of labels. They have no intrinsic value - they are as good or bad as you want them to be. In response to your question, I'm a nerd and proud of it.