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It's poor form and it takes the fun out of the game
It's okay,It's part of the game, heck the opponent would do the same against me
It's fine as long as you're not cheesy
It's poor form but it's part of the game.
Lets say you're a Space Marine player and you know your opponent is Tau player.
So you decide to fill your army list up with more fast attack options and more Rhinos than you normally do.
Then in your next game you know you will fight a Chaos Marine player, so you decide to put in more plasma guns and power weapons into your list as you can.
Is doing something like this unfair and poor form?
I mean if you were a Tau player and you knew your opponent was going to field more fast attack options than usual would'nt you prepare for something like that? Like add more Kroots to your list or maybe alot of armour peircing weapons?
Or if you were the Chaos Marine player would'nt you also go and use more power weapons and Plasma weapons than you normally do?
Personally I find it to be the only reasonable thing to do but others say that it would be poor form to do such a thing.
Now, I don't play to win, I play to have fun but isn't preying on your opponents weaknesses also part of the game?
I just want to know your opinions.
I personally don't think it's acceptable because in a real war if my armies met on the battlefield they woudn't really know exactly what the other army would consist of and therefore not be able to Rhino Ram my guard army. Also i find it isn't fair in the sense that I take my army to GW and I only have my 1000 pts there and if people go "oh you have lots of tanks" so they decide to add like seven lascannons into their list just to fight me, they have an unfair advantage cuz they had the hindsight of knowing what they would fight which just shoudn't be. Yeah a bit of a rant.
I consider it acceptable,as long as the tailored army is pretty close to the all-comers one.
For example, I usually play 3 dispell scrolls in Warhammer Fantasy games. I knew I was going to play against a Dwarf player, with no magic at all, and I removed those completely useless scroll.
In 40k I always play Icon of Slaanesh on my chaos space marines, but the initiative boost is pretty useless against Eldar. When I had to play against a guy with 3xFalcons + 18xHarlies I switched those pointless icons with Icon of Tzeentch.
I consider minor tweaking to be ok, while major\cheesy adjustements are pretty poor.
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As long as the tailoring is just a few small things or swapping a unit or 2 it's fine, just don't go into completely changing the list.
I do tailor my lists a bit to my opponents like say change a havoc sqaud to heavy boters instead of plasmaguns when I get to face orks or such but the basic troops don't change.
I faced a Dwarf-army with my WEs in a 1k game a few weeks back. He knew exactly what I had in my force (don't have the models to vary it too much) and every choice he made in his list was there to counter what I brought to the field. Probably one of the most boring games of FB I have ever played.
I thinks its ok as long as its not a whole new cheesy list.
You cant really accept people to ohave one list to defend against every type of army out there, or you'd be left with alot of quite lacking lists that would lose due to trying to hard at to many different things. Much like taking a Lascannon and a flamer your prepared but your not going to do well unless your really skilled (and maybe not even then).
Well I for one don't tailor my army - but I do like to know what i'm going up against. For that reason I bought ALL the Army Codices - I wanted to know everything about all of them, and I usually bring mine plus the one of my opponent in order to see what stats his troops have where and when and if they have any special rules. This way I can set up my army on the spot to counter whatever he's good at, and strike at him wherever he's weak.
Remember -And yes I take that to heart with almost everything in my life. Know the a-hole you're facing and you'll kick his butt every time. Take my friend Mickey (real name isn't mickey but just for argument sake), I kicked his ass with Orcs while he played as the Empire. Then I kicked his ass with my High Elves against his Dark Elves. Then I kicked his ass with my High Elves against his Empire. And then I kicked his ass with my High Elves against his Orcs. (Yes he does 3 armies and all of them bellow 1K). I know how he thought, I knew what his troups' strenghts were and so it was easy as cake for me to counter them.Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
eh... i'm with the general concensus that it's not bad unless you totally re-tool your list. When I play fantasy or 40K i remember that i'm working on a limited budget. I have alot of Assault Squads in my army- not too much flexibility. However, if I realize i have a useless weapon, i swap it for a better one.
It really does mirror reality. The marines are going to be fighting an enemy they are aware of, and will likely use their resources to take them out. You don't use flamers against necrons now do you??
The only time i've ever tailored my list to the point of it being unfair was against my friend, an eldar player. He refused to see reason and include anti-tank weapons, so i played a cityfight where i took a Demolisher and a rapid-fire Pred. I hid my entire army in the streets behind the tanks. That was the end of that game...
it was also the end of the "no big guns" eldar lists...