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Well, today i am finally the proud owner of my first ever non GW figure, a Wolfen from Rackham's Confrontation series.
I originaly found it online whlst searching for some cool alternative models for my Beasts of Chaos Minotaurs. I found Varghar (the Wolfen) though, and instantly decided he had to be my Beastlord.
Upon receiving the model, i open up the blister and discover that he comes with a profile card, as well as a full set of intro rules to the game system!
So i began to think... why on earth does GW have the monopoly on wargaming. High Street presence i guess, but when you look around there are far more companies, with better models, better service, and better games.
Many online based companies have regular updates and new models for each army, and the rules updates are free with new models, or downloadable. As opposed to GW who update each army and core ruleset every 5 years or so, make you pay to have acess to these changes, aswell as splashing out for the new models as your old ones are now obsolete.
Il seriously considering taking a read of my new, (Free!) ruleset for confrontation, and giving that game a go.
My Beasts will still be completed though, but thats because i love the models and army theme ive set up for them.
Im just wondering what others thoughts and opinions of other companies and games are? Are GW really the best? ...
Well I have a liking for Privateer Press models (Hords) both the look of them and the feel of the game. And since GW are starting to outprice themselves from thier own market, as well as leaving players in the dark about way way to much (store changes) I have seen companies like this getting much more attention not only in gameing groups but in stores as well. GW have had hte lime light because they have a good marketing campain and the history - everyone has heard of them - thus they get by on that. Couple that with the fact that their painting group are better than many others, which in turn makes the models look more impressive.
As for "the best" I think they were for a very long time not only the best group, but hte most varied and most well known; today they are losing variety, losing thier great edge and losing profits -- going Ltd I think might have done far more damage than they gained in the long run - - they are far from finished, but they are no longer at the front.
(Ps - I like the Jhereg banner!)
and please tell how those rules go 0 I have never heard of this game before --- but those models!
darn I am never going to finish armies now!
Last edited by Overread; February 7th, 2008 at 01:10.
Looking forward to seeing pictures of the model, Deceiver.
As to other companies: Around here, I don't think I could really find any kind of consistent game that wasn't WFB or 40K. So GW it is, at least of the foreseeable while.
I think it is weird that Reaper can put out really good metal minis for much cheaper than GW. I mean $10-$20 for one metal model? Repaer can put out the same quality and only charge $3-$9 for. heck even a ten man set of metals from Reaper is like $39. Now look at GW's new vampire counts cavalry that is $75 for 5 models. Sure the GW is for a game and Reaper really isn't, but still. If I was to play fantasy I know where I'd get a bunch of my metal character, lord and unit upgrade models from, Reaper.
Last edited by orky/necron; February 7th, 2008 at 14:31. Reason: misspelling
Yeah, I recently bought some of the Reaper sophie models, and the quality level is equal, if not better than GW ones, and even with shipping from the US it still came to less than most of the GW stuff .
Many Warmachine cavalry units are similarly high-priced for a small number of models.
I'm exploring Warmachine now (I have a faction deck and the mercs deck), and pricewise it seems they are close to, if not identical to GW, however the REAL savings comes in the "real" army sizes.
I say "real" because, as many here know, you CAN play 40K with a 500-point army in a standard game (excluding Combat Patrol, Kill team etc.), but nobody does, at least where I play, and I've played at three different stores that are up to 100 miles apart. A 500-point army is the bare minimum, and most people wrinkle their nose at your "tiny" list and say, "well, I guess I can play you," but it's clear you better beef it up, especially if you want to play tournaments. At 1,000 points, my opponents cock their heads and say, "Yeah, that's not bad, but you oughta bump to 1,500." Some of the tournaments at these places are 1,850-point competitions, so it's pretty clear that while I CAN play a 500-point game, I'd better have 2,000 points if I REALLY want to be taken seriously.
By contrast, at these same places, nobody needs a Warmachine list bigger than 1,000 points, not even for tournament play. So, for roughly the same amount of money as a "real" 40K army, I can have TWO armies of respectable size in Warmachine. This, I tell my gf, is why I'm considering it.
Another company puts out miniatures of equal quality and you can get more for less. That is what I was going for. I was using the unit type as an example for the pricing. So calvary should be more expensive because it is calvary? That seems off to me, but I don't play fantasy.
I was only using them for an example. Models are models and GW is overpricing themsevles when other companies put out metals that are just as good. My opinion so rip it apart.;Y
I have bought a lot of rackham miniatures too, and I don't play confrontation, but man, they do have several awesome miniatures. I read the rules, and I don't like them very much, but I'd need to see a game or two before deciding.
However, I'm not much into confrontation fluff, which is a nice part of the game for me. Also, whereas for my RPG I prefer medieval-fantasy ambientation, for strategy games I'd rather have sci-fi, so 40k it is for me!