Just Starting

[Ulgrim]

I've been a fan of WF and 40k for a while now. And decided now would be a good time to get into the tabletop game with the release of the 5th Edition. But, where do I go from here?

Do I buy the new box set coming out? (Even if I maybe don't want to play as SM or Nids?)

And should I buy a whole tool/paint set(s)?

I was thinking about just buying a copy of the new rulebook and reading through it first, then going from there. *shrug*

[ArchonFarseerGuy]

What army do you want to collect?

The Boxed Set will give you a rulebook, some scenery (however crap), and an army. And if yu don't want the army r the scenery, you can just sell them, saffe in the knowledge that you've brought the rulebook at effectively a discount price.

-AFG//

[Ulgrim]

Meh, that's the problem right now. I really like the fluff of Warhammer, and have read a good many BL books.

Anyway, to make a long story short, I was thinking SM, but the new fluff says the age of man is ending so I'm not sure.

I've switched between wanting to play SM, CSM, IG, Tau, and Nids. Not sure right now. Would an Adeptus Mechanicus IG army be good? Turn Guardsmen into more than just fodder? lol

[ArchonFarseerGuy]

As long as there are SMs, the Age of Man is in no way threatened. Trust me, you evidently don't know GW.

The best way to get into an army once you have all relevant Books etc is to get the Battalion set and possibly a character.

Play a few games and decide what your force needs. If you think it needs anti-tank, get some Devastators, or a Carnifex or whatever. Keep doing that until you're happy with your force and are ready to contemplate retirement/collect a new force.

-AFG//

[==Me==]

Well, you picked a great time to start. 5th edition just got released last week and everyone is re-learning the game so you won't have any catching up to do.

Don't get the current start box though, as it is for the old edition of the rules and won't do you any good. The 5th edition starter is due out in September and I'll bet you don't want to wait.

Pick up the big rulebook and thumb through it a bit. It should give you a good idea about what you're getting into It's got all the rules you'll need to play, an extensive background section for every army and the universe as a whole, a hobby section to give you some inspiration, and some fun extras like campaign rules and variant missions.

When picking your army, go for the models you like best. You'll be painting and building plenty, so you had better enjoy it. Playstyle and background are also important, go with what feels right. Once you've got an army put together, start playing some games to get the hang of things. Before you know it, you'll have the army to beat with your group

[Ulgrim]

Thanks.

EDIT: Saw last post. Order sent for new rulebook. *grin* Also... Dark Angels FTW. Favorite loyalist chapter.

[eatmydarkapostle]

Study the miniature ranges. I play the game because I like the models - Dark Elf Executioners, Plague Marines, Thousand Sons, Steel Legion, and Ork Stormboy are some of my favorites. Too bad I can't field any of them in the same army (except DG and TS now)

Once you pick an army, try not to deviate too much - otherwise you'll get discouraged and never get an army done.

[Boomer]

Once you pick an army, try not to deviate too much - otherwise you'll get discouraged and never get an army done.

You might find the tale of four gamers thread helpful if you’re planning on building
your first army. Even if you don’t take part I hope it helps inspire you!

[Ulgrim]

Ok, I got the 5th Edition Rulebook. (How long did it take you guys to get used to the rules? I'm a bit confused on the finer points.) Anyway, I think I have my army choices down between Eldar and SM. Could someone who plays them/knows them well give me the pros/cons of each and what kind of playstyle each army has?

Also, what models should I buy first for each army? Tools? Paints? (Codex I know.)

Thanks much.

[Canew]

Originally Posted by Ulgrim

Ok, I got the 5th Edition Rulebook. (How long did it take you guys to get used to the rules? I'm a bit confused on the finer points.) Anyway, I think I have my army choices down between Eldar and SM. Could someone who plays them/knows them well give me the pros/cons of each and what kind of playstyle each army has?

Also, what models should I buy first for each army? Tools? Paints? (Codex I know.)

Thanks much.

Well, lots of loaded questions there. *cracks knuckles and takes a deep breath*

As far as getting used to the rules, we ALL have trouble with the finer points. That's normal. You should start playing with people who are patient and willing to help you. Do that, and you'll figure the rules out. Not too hard once you've done a game or two.

Eldar vs. Space Marines, eh? Well, the way I look at 'em, it's like this:

In most armies, you have units that are good at one thing, but not another. For example, in most armies you're likely to have one little squad of soldiers who are good at shooting, but get crushed in close combat, while another unit can't hit the broad side of a barn door, but will tear anything it gets its hands on to ribbons.

Welcome to the Eldar. While I don't play them, I know they are a race based on units that are each only good at doing one thing well. The challenge is making sure your force has units with skills and abilities to complement each other, so they can back each other up on the battlefield.

Now, the marines are similar, except you'll find when building your army that the marine units are much more flexible, meaning you can make a unit into a close-combat machine, or instead make that exact same unit a good run-and-gun crew.

But the best advice will come from the sub-forums. I highly recommend you introduce yourself in the Space Marine and Eldar sub-forums and ask the same questions there. You'll get much more focused advice.

As for models, same advice. Ask in the sub-forums, or read posts already there asking similar questions. As for tools, you'll need brushes, a good hobby knife, and superglue to start. Later, if you get brave with conversions, buy a pin vise (mini handheld drill), saws, and maybe some modeling putty (or "green stuff" as it is known here).

Good luck!