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Yep, they are free, and free is good for me.
No, they are the same as stealing, which is wrong.
Never even knew you could do it - till now that is!
I don't see the problem, but i love the books so i will buy them.
This weekend I played a game with a friend.
We were talking about the cost of codex’s,
and he laughed at me when I told him I bought mine.
He then showed me that he used the internet to download illegal pdf copies of all
the G.W codex’s and not only that but also had a copy of each of the
forge world books plus a copy of the xenology.
He then told me that he only had to pay a one off fee of 82 pence to download
the C.S.M , Daemon, Ork codex’s.
So why doesn’t G.W just sell electronic versions of the codex’s?
And then charge 50% of the face value of a printed book for them?
Seems to me that people are going to download them anyway (most can be downloaded for free as it is).
I have two thoughts about this,
1) should I send a email to G.W and let them know about this? (and ruin a good thing for the knockoff Nigel’s??)
2) If your opponent turned up with a illegal copy of a codex would you not play them because of it, or would you say nothing and just be envious of their computer skills??
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I downloaded the codexes to decide on what army I'd want, and then when I finally decided on the Guard and started buying models I bought their codex.
Actually I think GW charging to pay for them online and take 50% off the price is a great idea, I personally think 40$ is too much, especially if you play a few armies, both my armies I play had new codex released only half a year after I bought their 3rd edition ones, I felt a little peeved by that.
I wouldn't turn down a game, I'm still a noob so any game is fine, I don't care how they get their dex as long as they can read it and interpret its rules correctly.
This dowmloading and printing out is another reason why the costs go up each time as someone has to pay for your theft.
Due to my situation the actual 5th ed rules where not possible to get hold of. Still aren't due to the financial status of a student. Being overseas doesn't help either (no GW here) so to play it I had to download it.
I will by the book(so I guess the whole think works out in the end as I do buy the book when i can) next time I make it to a store as I would never dream of turning up to tournament/friendly game against an unknown opponent with a knock off codex or rule book.
Last edited by Triphinius; August 11th, 2008 at 14:20.
Now, part of the answer is also contained in the title: "illegal".
Do we need to say more?
I'll admit to having received some pdfs from friends in order to satisfy my curiosity ahead of a release, but I always buy the actual codex, in that case.
If one does not like a company, its products, or its prices, theft is not the answer. Finding another game/hobby is.
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i wouldnt turn down a game if an oponent was using a downloaded codex, but i wouldnt do it prsonaly. in england, the codexes dont cost a huge amount (£12), and i think that is reasonable considering all the effort that has gone into its production, (rule development, modeling, painitng, photographing, artwork, backgrund stroy development).
personaly iv bought many codexes over the years, and some imperial armour books. if you play warhammer, then the codex is part of the hoby, and should be viewed and bought as such. you wouldnt go and get a knock off model would you?
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I wouldn't turn down a game just because they're using a downloadable Codex, and I wouldn't download a Codex myself.
The nearest I'd do, is I might dl a Forgeworld book, to see the rules for a new army they're releasing are the rules I'd like to use to represent whatever army I'd like to collect next, but if I did collect that army I would buy the book. They're just very expensive to buy and then realise thy're not what you wanted in the first place.
Though, tbh, I find forums like this give me a pretty good indication of whetehr or not I should buy it, so I haven't as yet had need to illegally download any GW stuff.
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It's an expensive hobby. If you want to check out a codex, look at it your local store... If you think they're over-priced, don't buy one, but you really ought to have considered that before getting into the hobby!
You can get discount, 2nd-hand codexes on eBay too, so there's really no excuse for piracy - there's a big gulf between "this is too expensive" and "this is worth nothing".
I think a lot of GW's stuff is over-priced, but I also think it's very well-produced with some fantastic artwork and background and I'd never use a pirated copy of a 'dex.
I have, in the past, dled codexs for research purposes but I never use dled codexs for playing. If I'm going to play with it than I will buy it, period.
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