The darker side of Warhammer.

[Hashulaman]

Maybe it's just my area, but we seem to have the more interesting incidents at tournies.


Example #1: A 40k tourney, this kid kept insisting that a Dreadnought take a leadership test. Even when everyone including judges and GW officials said otherwise. The kid (he was probally 16-19) Then threatens to kick the other players butt for "cheating" the two go outside. Kid gets beaten up, when the cops arrive, eveyroen says they didn't see anything and the kid gets in trouble for making a false report.

Example #2: Fantasy Tourny. This guy loose to a kid, breaks the boys dragon which he workd so hard on and laughs. The store owner takes out a shotgun and tells him to buy the kid a new dragon then leave and never come back

Example #3: Not at a tourny, but a good example. Guy looses, take a wraithlord and throws it against a cinderblock wall. The Wraithlord is unharmed but the cinderblock has a huge hole in it. Apparently the Wraithlord was an old metal model that had been asse,mbles with some kind of industrial adhesive.

Example #4: This guy takes his gf to a tourny, one of the guys there clearly doesn't know hwo to speak to women. He says something she didn't like. She takes a metal nid model. Either hive tyrant or carnifex and throw sit at him. It ends up slamming into his chest and he's bleeding a little bit.




Anyone else here have stories of Warhammer idiocy at it's finest?

[gauss_storm]

Wow... I would'nt have any stories that come close to what you posted.

People who act to such a extreme way (and is often in the situation of loosing) really need to get they're head straight.

[Boomer]

Are they 'real' stories?
Was you there for all four of them? Cos if you where maybe it's you? ( I don't mean that in a bad way , I mean maybe you are like Cypher the fallen angel spreading strife and animosity whenever he appears?
Ohhhh spooky!


sorry but your thread reminded me of something I read on warseer,

My biggest killjoy is playing sore losers and people with unpainted miniatures.

For example last week I played against 13 year old called Dean who is a
shy lad who has just started getting interested in the hobby about three months ago,
he had a unpainted I.G army and I had my DeathWing army, so instead of doing a points
limit game, I told him he could only use painted mini’s.
So I took 3 terminator squads for my H.Q, 5 terminator squads for my elites and I think I had 8 terminator squads
for my troops and I took 6 LandRaiders as my heavy support, in all I think I had around 2800pts.
The kid had 5 guardsmen with shotguns, and an elder hovertank for some reason.
It was only after I had set up my 80 terminators and 6 LandRaiders did I notice
what he was trying to use. I tried to make him see that he was cheating by using
the elder tank but he kept on moaning that he didn’t have anything else to use.
So I told him that was his fault not mine and I should not have put up with his cheating.
I got pretty mad at him and told him if he used the tank then I would have to have two extra turns
to make things fair for me. By the end of my second turn (I took my ‘extra’ two turns before I allowed
him to take his first one) I had wiped out his five guardsmen and I taken out all the weapons
on his elder tank. He got really pissy and just picked up his stuff and walked off. Well that’s hardly
gaming etiquette in my book so I followed him outside and saw him talking to his Dad, so I took
it upon myself to explain to his father that his son is a sore loser and he is not welcome to play in a G.W
if he is going get upset with losing and not having perfectly painted minis. Infact he had pretty much ruined
my night so much that I could only eat 14 of my box of 20 dunkin donuts. Not happy.
&

Last night I went to my local G.W veteran’s night.
Everyone down there knows me (at first only because
they had to let in thought the delivery doors as the front entrance is too narrow for me).
Anyway like I said I’m such a nice and helpful person.
I love to tell people how I think they could be better at the game.
I often act as an unelected official referee for games and I often make sure people
play in what I think is the spirit of the game. For example my Space marines
according to the Fluff I wrote have never lost a battle ever in 12,000 years.
I like to explain that when I am talking at people about how great my army is.
Last night I told the G.W manager I had to play a game with a new chap called Tom (I think he is
in his early twenties) I wanted to use the usual rules about only using perfectly painted
display quality miniatures. He was keen to do because he had a rubbishy painted Ork army.
I told him we had to play a mission I had wrote just for my army (called the “ultimate victory of the Death wing”),
which gives me a extra turn at the start of the battle, also it gives me the first turn at the start of the battle,
and I have a extra 1000pts to use and I also get to use these points to buy 4 extra heavy
support choices. Once he agreed to this, I made him set up all his army on one side one
the board after that I then set up the terrain.
I then deep stroked all 80 of my terminators on to his side of the board. I don’t use the
random scatter dice when I do this as it tends to kill lots of my units when I deep strike
my entire army on my free pre first turn. I then moved all my landraiders 36 inches to his
deployment zone. Then I did all my shooting. Then my close combat. I then had my first turn.
To be fair, his poor army choice and n00b like deployment didn’t help him. Also the fact that
I did not use any terrain in his deployment zone meant that he suffered what I think would be around 95%
losses before he had his first turn. Not that any of this matter because what upset me was a young
punk who had been silently watch my masterful tactics, suddenly decided to PIP in and make out that
I had cheated because I had moved like half an inch further than I should of. I tried to explain it was my opponents
fault because his army had taken up all the room and my deep striking landraider had to try and be as close as I can make it to
his hq otherwise I would not be able to assault on the turn it turned up. Then the boy said that my army wasn’t even painted that well
and he knew people with much better Death wing armies. Well I got kinda mad but I didn’t say anything then.
I waited till the kid had started play a game (my game had finished by that point, Tom said that it was only his second game
so I helped him by reminding of rule changes I make up during the game but he still lost, what a n00b! ) anyway when this kid who called me a cheater, started his game to declared that I would be the referee for the game. I made sure that the game was played according to the Fluff and background of 40K, and I wouldn’t allow any changes to rules other than what I made up as I went along.
I decided it was fairer for everyone if I rolled the dice for the game and I decided it would be better if I then decided what score they need to hit/wound/make armour save (I rolled the dice first and then decided if they had passed the test). This made the game lots more interesting for me. The kid lost the game by turn two, mainly thanks to poor dice rolling and failed leadership tests. He also didn’t understand the rules I made up so he kept on moving his tanks forwards instead of sideways like I told him to, so every time he did that I took the tank off the table and told him he couldn’t use it anymore.
And did I get any thanks for all this help?? Well no actually. The boy not only moaned about me the entire game but he made feel like I shouldn’t be allowed to offer help. I remember when I was a n00b I would have been happy for a veteran to help me like I help all the people in my local G.W, even the G.W red shirts think I’m good at helping.

Now if I had to play someone like that I would throw something metal and heavy at him, or die laughing.

[magila]

It sounds like troll work that warseer post. No way that's real.

[Overread]

migh have been more of an extreme story example than a real troll methinks
The tale of the shotgun and the dragon though is funny to read though
Never had anything like this before - arguments over rules (often due to GWs horrific word choices and senetence structure) plenty - but nothing like this

[Malevon]

I'm pretty sure that Warseer post is sarcastic... the bits about the Dunkin' Donuts and obesity give it away.

[Hashulaman]

I know the girl throwing the carnifex/hive tyrant is true, as is the kid getting his ass kicked for insisting on a leadership test for the wlakers. Oh if someone tried to pull that crap at our store (the aforemntioned story from boomer) We would collectivly as one shove his dice down his throat till he would shut up.

[magnet_man]

Worst I had was a juniors player who not only kept telling me where to move my models, he also would go ahead and move them for me. It was like, "So the terminators are going to move here, and shoot right?" and he would move them for me. Which of course was not where I wanted to move them. I was about to break his fingers.

On top of that he kept telling me to hurry up because he didn't finish his first game in the tournament. I took great pride in wiping him off the table.

[amphibious]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Are they 'real' stories?
Was you there for all four of them? Cos if you where maybe it's you? ( I don't mean that in a bad way , I mean maybe you are like Cypher the fallen angel spreading strife and animosity whenever he appears?
Ohhhh spooky!


sorry but your thread reminded me of something I read on warseer,

My biggest killjoy is playing sore losers and people with unpainted miniatures.

For example last week I played against 13 year old called Dean who is a
shy lad who has just started getting interested in the hobby about three months ago,
he had a unpainted I.G army and I had my DeathWing army, so instead of doing a points
limit game, I told him he could only use painted mini’s.
So I took 3 terminator squads for my H.Q, 5 terminator squads for my elites and I think I had 8 terminator squads
for my troops and I took 6 LandRaiders as my heavy support, in all I think I had around 2800pts.
The kid had 5 guardsmen with shotguns, and an elder hovertank for some reason.
It was only after I had set up my 80 terminators and 6 LandRaiders did I notice
what he was trying to use. I tried to make him see that he was cheating by using
the elder tank but he kept on moaning that he didn’t have anything else to use.
So I told him that was his fault not mine and I should not have put up with his cheating.
I got pretty mad at him and told him if he used the tank then I would have to have two extra turns
to make things fair for me. By the end of my second turn (I took my ‘extra’ two turns before I allowed
him to take his first one) I had wiped out his five guardsmen and I taken out all the weapons
on his elder tank. He got really pissy and just picked up his stuff and walked off. Well that’s hardly
gaming etiquette in my book so I followed him outside and saw him talking to his Dad, so I took
it upon myself to explain to his father that his son is a sore loser and he is not welcome to play in a G.W
if he is going get upset with losing and not having perfectly painted minis. Infact he had pretty much ruined
my night so much that I could only eat 14 of my box of 20 dunkin donuts. Not happy.
&

Last night I went to my local G.W veteran’s night.
Everyone down there knows me (at first only because
they had to let in thought the delivery doors as the front entrance is too narrow for me).
Anyway like I said I’m such a nice and helpful person.
I love to tell people how I think they could be better at the game.
I often act as an unelected official referee for games and I often make sure people
play in what I think is the spirit of the game. For example my Space marines
according to the Fluff I wrote have never lost a battle ever in 12,000 years.
I like to explain that when I am talking at people about how great my army is.
Last night I told the G.W manager I had to play a game with a new chap called Tom (I think he is
in his early twenties) I wanted to use the usual rules about only using perfectly painted
display quality miniatures. He was keen to do because he had a rubbishy painted Ork army.
I told him we had to play a mission I had wrote just for my army (called the “ultimate victory of the Death wing”),
which gives me a extra turn at the start of the battle, also it gives me the first turn at the start of the battle,
and I have a extra 1000pts to use and I also get to use these points to buy 4 extra heavy
support choices. Once he agreed to this, I made him set up all his army on one side one
the board after that I then set up the terrain.
I then deep stroked all 80 of my terminators on to his side of the board. I don’t use the
random scatter dice when I do this as it tends to kill lots of my units when I deep strike
my entire army on my free pre first turn. I then moved all my landraiders 36 inches to his
deployment zone. Then I did all my shooting. Then my close combat. I then had my first turn.
To be fair, his poor army choice and n00b like deployment didn’t help him. Also the fact that
I did not use any terrain in his deployment zone meant that he suffered what I think would be around 95%
losses before he had his first turn. Not that any of this matter because what upset me was a young
punk who had been silently watch my masterful tactics, suddenly decided to PIP in and make out that
I had cheated because I had moved like half an inch further than I should of. I tried to explain it was my opponents
fault because his army had taken up all the room and my deep striking landraider had to try and be as close as I can make it to
his hq otherwise I would not be able to assault on the turn it turned up. Then the boy said that my army wasn’t even painted that well
and he knew people with much better Death wing armies. Well I got kinda mad but I didn’t say anything then.
I waited till the kid had started play a game (my game had finished by that point, Tom said that it was only his second game
so I helped him by reminding of rule changes I make up during the game but he still lost, what a n00b! ) anyway when this kid who called me a cheater, started his game to declared that I would be the referee for the game. I made sure that the game was played according to the Fluff and background of 40K, and I wouldn’t allow any changes to rules other than what I made up as I went along.
I decided it was fairer for everyone if I rolled the dice for the game and I decided it would be better if I then decided what score they need to hit/wound/make armour save (I rolled the dice first and then decided if they had passed the test). This made the game lots more interesting for me. The kid lost the game by turn two, mainly thanks to poor dice rolling and failed leadership tests. He also didn’t understand the rules I made up so he kept on moving his tanks forwards instead of sideways like I told him to, so every time he did that I took the tank off the table and told him he couldn’t use it anymore.
And did I get any thanks for all this help?? Well no actually. The boy not only moaned about me the entire game but he made feel like I shouldn’t be allowed to offer help. I remember when I was a n00b I would have been happy for a veteran to help me like I help all the people in my local G.W, even the G.W red shirts think I’m good at helping.

Now if I had to play someone like that I would throw something metal and heavy at him, or die laughing.

Gosh darn those guys are meanies. I dont get why you would force a noob to play with painted guys and then take 2 extra turns they could have played a fair 500 point game and explained things nicely

[gauss_storm]

Originally Posted by amphibious

Gosh darn those guys are meanies. i dont get why you would force a noob to play with painted guys and then take 2 extra turns they could have played a fair 500 point game and explained things nicely

Read that post a bit more carefully, you can see the story obviously is'nt true.