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I am new to 40k, me and my friends are planning to build up small 40k armies and battle it out but before we start we have been reading other forums and seeing allot of people (Veterans) complaining about the new rules and GW is not doing anything to make 40k better given out broken promise.
So we are not sure if we should invest in 40k wher it might leads us battling it out in the streets or invest in Warhammer Fantasy.
So my question why is this? Is this true? And what should we do?
I hope this doesn't open a can of worms
I think your question is more to do with rules and not so much fluff which is background, stories etc. I do more modeling, converting and painting myself but I don't think you have too much to worry about. I think some people are annoyed because the new edition has changed a few things and now their favourite unit is not as good as it was. Or they are now faced with something they thought was easy to deal with becoming very nasty. An example is people were never worried about a Tyranid Carnifex in close combat because it was too slow to ever get there. Now the Carnifex can run and certain people can no longer laugh at it. However the Tyranid venom cannon is now rather useless.
I also think that some people will claim to be veterans after two or three games. I would ignore the ranting if I were you. GW stores do loads of introduction games. Tell the staff you aren't sure and play the intro games for a feel of it. I would note the game is much better with an army you have painted yourself and chosen the units you like for it. And I second what gauss_storm said, much wisdom.
I agree, the vets are a whiny complaining bunch. It seems they can't adpet to the new rules so they just whine about how it was better in the old days. For people like me who just started this is basicly saying "Hey the game sucks now, you should have been playing long ago, but you chose now to do it, so you are screwed."
40K is still a great game and it only gets better as it goes along. There are some things I miss - like the psychic phase from 2nd. ed. and one or two other things, but things generally really do only get better.
I mean, I look at the few old mini's I've got left and compare them to my spanking new plastic Guardsmen and you really can see the difference - the old ones are ugly and clunky and unappealing, but at the time I was hoping they'd never change! I hope I'll be saying the same thing in another 10 years when I've got another new and improved army - it gives me something to look forward to!
As a case in point, look at the Dark Eldar - buy yourself just the one model and then buy another of the same model, but after they get re-released next year - that'll illustrate my point beautifully and sum up what change in 40k is really all about!
Honestly, I think it's a little inaccurate to even pretend that 'veteran' players, as a group, whine or grumble or are otherwise displeased with 40k. Maybe a couple (yes, a couple) people in your particular area might be like that, but it's by no means enough of a sampling to generalise to the extent that this thread is generalising.
As many "newbies" as "veterans" whine and complain. It's just the person, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they are 'veterans' or not.
So, notwithstanding all of those alleged doom merchants out there, I would say that this is probably a very good time to be starting into the hobby - and at least you don't have all of the mental baggage of all the previous rules sets that many of us are still encumbered with (and can get all-too-easily confused about during games!). Just don't think about getting a Dark Eldar Army until after the new Codex comes out in 2009/10/11 or whenever ... ... ...