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I haven't seen anyone posting about this, and I hope this is in the right forum...
I was just wondering if anyone plans on going to Adepticon and/or other Tournaments that might be in your area.
The main reason I ask is because I was thinking about going to Adepticon because I would like to play in a more competetive tournament style event for WH40k and I want to learn what it's like compared to your average friendly game of 40k. Obviously, the biggest motivation is the chance for prizes or some monetary gain and it's always fun to actually be playing for a reason, as opposed to just muckin' around.
So here are some questions
1. I realized Adepticon is quite expensive. Not only do you have to pay $30 for the weekend pass, but you have to pay anywhere from $10-$25 just to get into any 40k event. Is there just a ton of Prize support? What else would motivate someone to shell out $55. Does everyone get something to make it worth that cost?
2. I've been playing for about 3 months and I've acquired a total of about 12-15 games under my belt. I still make occasional mistakes and I'm not 100% familiar with all the rules (though, who really is?). My biggest weakness is that I don't know what to expect from a most of the armies out there. I've played Tau, Eldar, Space marines, Chaos Demons, Necrons and Imperial Guard roughly twice each. I've played CSM, Sisters of Battle and Tyranid about once each. So I have a rough idea of what these armies might bring to the table.
Hmm, so I guess my Main question is, Should I try to get more experience before playing in such expensive tournaments.
3. Aside from Apedticon, and GT...are there any other tournaments that happen on an annual basis? I live in Columbus, Ohio..and I've heard of something called Cagoween and something come in Cincinati. I'd love to find more local tournaments that dont' cost a fortune to participate in.
4. Lastly, I would like to know about other people's tournament stories and experience, and what kinda players you might end up playing against. I imagine there would be all types of players, from Strategic masters to Idiots and Dead-Honest to Cheaters. I'm extremely lucky because in my area, everyone is very patient,cooperative and reasonable in almost every respect. I don't know of anyone who cheats or is too annoying to play.
1) That is dirt cheap to be honest. I've paid that much or similar to that to participate in much smaller events (although usually it includes a lunch.) Imagine what it costs to rent an adequately sized convention hall in the Chicago area for three days!
2) The number one thing when you're new to tournaments is time. The next couple of games you play. Set a timer. You have two hours from the time you start unpacking your models to be finished the game. Go! It is extremely aggravating to face sloooow players and only get through turn 3. I think I'm a pretty generous person with soft scores, but that's one thing that will get you zeroes from me. Especially if it looks like you're intentionally stalling.
3) There's probably stuff happening several times a year in Columbus and Cincinnati, you just have to find someone who's in the scene so you can learn about them. Even in my personal hell, middle of northern frozen nowhere Edmonton Alberta, there are 4-5 GW tournaments a year. They're just not well publicized if you're not on the mailing lists to know about them.
4) I don't have any horror stories to be honest. Maybe I would if I were more of a hard-nosed player. I've let people slide on rules I knew I was right about because it wasn't worth arguing over. The vast majority of the games I've played in tournaments have been positive experiences.
Ideally, the main payoff should be great games with great opponents, not simply how much swag you walk away with... Though the swag does help!
2] Like Affe said, time limits make life interesting. You've got to play a quick and efficient game. Also, do a quick mental review of your objectives around turn three - kill points are easy, but if you've got to do something specific there's nothing worse than forgetting about it until turn 6!!
3] Ask around! Your fellow gamers and store staff are your best resource for local info.
4] No horror stories here either. My main tournament is Astronomi-Con, and it's renowned for good games and good players, so I'm not really much help here.
Speaking of which, ever thought about attending an Astro event, Affe?? It's one of the best out there, and there's one to either side of you - Vancouver and the home event over here in Winnipeg. A bit more expensive, and some travel involved, but it's well worth it if you ever give it a shot!
Where do you play regular games? Is it just your friends in the basement, or do you go to a local store/club to play? If it's the latter, you might consider a local event, if you haven't done one already.
I know at two stores near me, there are regular "tournaments" that consist of one-day events that usually are dirt cheap to get into (around $10 US). Put on by the shop, the "prizes" range from regurgitated entry fees doled out in store credit (naturally varies based on how many people ante up that day), to some events where stores, in an attempt to spur interest, will take the entry fees, offer them up for store credit, and provide matching store credit (i.e., $50 in entry fees turns into a $100 prize pool).
These sorts of events are not hard to arrange, and if your local store hasn't done this yet, why not suggest it? You never know, they may go for it. This would be a good way to get your hands dirty as far as tourneys go, especially if you can find some tournament veterans to help set ground rules.
Thanks Canew, Wraith and Inquistor Affe.
I DO play at a local shop or two. The Main place I go is about 40min away and has people there are very familiar with the rules (though there is always that moment once every few games where something needs to be looked up). I heard about some tournaments coming up later in the year, but the only one that's local to my city sounds like it would be in Halloween.
1. First, in response to the others. I can understand that playing a variety of people at an ALL WEEKEND 40k Event would be nice. But paying $50 for your First Game--How is that Cheap? I mean, I could get a Battlewagon for that or lots of other things that could improve my army.
2. I'm still not sure I should go due to my lack of experience and the overall cost vs. my Current Financial situation. I guess that could change if I get my taxes done...and it would definitely be a lot of fun to go to a tourney.
HOwever, I also have a lot of models that need to be painted/updated so they follow the WYSIWYG rules.
If you don't feel your confident about the rules enough to go to a tournament, I would advice against it then. There is nothing worse than having to teach your opponent how to play the game while at a tournament, since this is an event were people should be very familiar with the rules.
I don't go very often to tournament, but every so often I do, and for the most part it's a nice change from the people I normally play, although there can be rare instances were it just sucks because you have a poor sport for an opponent.
I had one really terrible game with an opponent once, last 2 turns he started pulling out all the cheats and what not, moving his guys 6 inches turned into 7, and so on, it was just unpleasant. Also a guy I know was at a tournament and his opponent said that there gona be using his dice, because he was afraid of people using waited dice, so the guy I knew went to the judges and forfeited right away and didn't even bother playing the guy.
As for money though, $55 isn't all that much money, sure you can go and get something else for your army with that money, but then again you can say the same about going out and buying food, or clothing. that kinda money isn't really gona put you in the poor house, and if it is you probably shouldn't be buying little models with your money either. It's kinda like buying a really awesome set of golf clubs, but only going out to your backyard to take practice shots on the net you bought to catch the golf balls with.