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I am thinking about starting to paint my warhammer mini's again but a few (not important) thoughts/concerns are popping into my head. I will just get into it, so here is my delusional dilema. I am the only one of my friends who gets into WHFB, my other friends if they knew I was interested in it, would definatly ridicule me for having this as one of my hobbies. Having people to play is not an issue though because there is a league were I live, even though I have not contacted them yet to let them know I am interested. I am having a problem with doing what I want in life (as in a hobby) and doing what I want. There are times when I am not into WHFB but this is due cause I am super busy, but the important thing is, I always come back to warhammer, being interested as the first day I found out about the hobby. I love this game, I love every aspect of warhammer. It is really my dream game, but (i know this sounds soooo stupid) I can't get passed the image it will convey on me from my friends. But then I always think, I have to live my own life. I have been thinking lately, and I always think about how I am giving up a great hobby for an irrational reason. I have never played a full game, but will spend hours writing up army lists and looking at online tactics. I feel like just because I am 22 I can't have a hobby like Warhammer, even though this is one of the things I like doing in my free time.
I also will be hopefully going to grad school in about a year and a half and I do not know if I will have time to play, or if it will distract me too much from college, because this is truely the most important part of my life right now. All in all I feel like my life around me does not fit the hobby of warhammer, but I have a strong desire to play. I was wondering if other people had/have similar experiences to mine. sorry about the long winded post, and maybe being a little deep, but it has been on my mind and I am pretty open lol. What do you guys think about all of this?
thanks a bunch Tybug
First of all, you should never feel ashamed of any hobby or pastime you undertake, especially if it means something to you and you enjoy it. Your friends may ridicule you (Let's face it, good friendships always contain a good natured ribbing ) but if it's an important outlet to you, they'll understand. I highly doubt they will shun you.
You could also try to help them see beyond the "Hehe, little orcs and elves" aspect of Warhammer Fantasy. Discuss the creative and artistic side of the hobby, as well as the more interesting aspects of the setting. Don't be too pushy or try to convert them, but explaining your position calmly and eloquently can gain you some healthy respect.
I understand your concerns about being the only one of your close friends that plays Warhammer, but tabletop wargaming is a social hobby. Contact your local league, even pop down without an army. Talk to people, get to know them a little. I guarantee that you'll make new friends. It may be uncomfortable or awkward at first, but it is an enriching experience. You're going to have to do the same thing when you go to your grad school. It's just a part of life, except you will have the added bonus of meeting people with similar interests to you at your local Warhammer league.
Which brings me to my next point. I wouldn't worry too much about your hobby at college. Just put things in perspective. Your educational and physical well being matter so much more than little plastic sprues. Make sure you're studying and eating before spending any excess or saved cash on the hobby. Yes, this limits your purchases, but I've found through similar experiences that it enriches my love of the hobby. As I can purchase so few figures, the ones I do get I treat well and enjoy painting and gaming with. It's all about quality, not quantity; getting the most fun experience you can for as little as possible.
You have already said: "I always think, I have to live my own life." That about sums it up perfectly. Pursue new hobbies and interests. Good friends will accomodate you and you them. Just take it slow, no need to rush or be concerned, and have fun with your tabletop gaming experience.
Your friends should resepct you for who you are regarless of your hobbies (within reason... if one of my friends became a serial cat-killer I'd be worried!) and also you don't all have to have the same hobbies. Diversity is goodI am the only one of my friends who gets into WHFB, my other friends if they knew I was interested in it, would definatly ridicule me for having this as one of my hobbies
Good friends will accept you for it, and not shun you away. However you should learn that ridiculing the different is somewhat human nature and so (within reason) it should be accepted - you should not take it personally. You seem very mature in your recognition in the need to live your own life. It is better not to be too bothered by how others judge you.
As Kevin has said, Warhammer is a great social hobby and by getting involved you will undoubtedly make new friends and expand your social network. If Warhammer is something you enjoy and something that you are interested in you should be true to yourself and definitely give it a go.
I too have similar experience. Depending on your course and education, but on general it's hard to coordinate hobby with something this big. I'm usually too bet up to have interest in playing, not to mention it's hard to paint your miniatures when you had been doing all-nighters for the past weeks.
This doesn't mean there isn't any time and interest to play, but it's very rare to simply pick your stuff and afford the entire day in the club, though it's definitely easier when the club is close to you. Playing WH is fun but that shouldn't stop you from exploring other aspects of life, have certainty, that the miniatures are waiting for you when you are done.
Best of luck.
This above all; to thine own self be true.
It's not uncommon for people to have several groups of friends. Well, that's what I hear anyway, all my friends are gamers, lol May you make many close and dear friends when you finally join the local league. Of course there are always a few people that are a bit bristly in every crowd, but on the whole my own local league has been a wonderful way to meet people!
Anyway, when you make some more friends, some who love gaming, I think you won't feel quite so pressured by what your long time friends think. It's not that you won't care, you'll just feel more confidant about yourself
When you get to grad school, do your best I really think Warhammer and 40K are here to stay, and will be waiting for you on the other side! Make lots of money and buy huge armies, lol!
Be well. Be blessed!
I too felt a bit... shy about telling people i played warhammer at first, these days though, i tell everyone, even people at work, sod it, i'm almost 25, i ain't gonna be ashamed no mo!
But, that's kinda easy for me to say as i went through that process. At the end of the day, people might laugh a bit, but if they really give you crap, they aren't your friends, and their reaction will show wether you can depend on them or not. If they mock it's them who are petty and childish.
Life, i find, is a lot easier if you just are who you are, the jokes will die off and you'll be happier for it.
Got a "good" rumour from a GW staffer? Forget about it, LO'ers know more than any random GW shop staffer.
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i don't really bring it up unless the topic comes up during conversation. shrug, my group of friends know but though they don't know anything much else than the models at my place belong to a tabletop game that i actively participate in. they're the type of group to go do more social events such as bowling or barscene... personally, i kind of like having a separation between my social life and my gaming life with the people i know at the club. they're a nice break from each other.
In honesty, people will learn to get over it. If not, are they really worth socialising with? People tend to have short attention spans about that kind of thing. As long as you're comfortable with your nerdiness, they should be as well, kind of like a stereotypical woman with a new dress. if she's confident in it, her friends will have a higher opinion of it than if she was shy and nervous about it. Forgive me if I'm not making sense here. It's 1AM, and I'm getting tired.
Would I be correct in saying that you feel that the hobby is too childish? (Reason I ask is that that's why I'd be apprehensive of taking it up if I were in your position) I remember one of my friends referring to my LOTR collection as "miniature barbies", and another guy asking if I used them as mannequins (coming from the 17 year-old male who watches Desperate Housewives... :/). Comments about childishness and the like tend to be saying something more about the stater than the recipient of the statement. If you plan to use them as action figures, carrying out epic boxing matches, I may reconsider this whole paragraph though.As for how much time WH will eat into, again, I have been in a similar position. I found that it ate time, affecting my religion (I've seen where these inevitably go, and so I will say no more, and beat anyone who comments about it* with a stick), and I've found that it's no different to terms of study. It's more a case of establishing priorities. For example, during study leave for last year's exams, I took a two week hiatus from LO (and even started placing study notes up before then as avatars, those that recall), and I think I'll be doing it again at the end of this year as well. Talk to our own Kuffy about it though, he's at the Zen level for that kind of thing now.I also will be hopefully going to grad school in about a year and a half
If you take it as a hobby, and as such, give it a back foot to more important things in reality (girlfriends, education, work etc), you can't really go that far wrong to my mind.
*In this thread, at any rate.
Hope this helps (and actually answers your question, for that matter).
Last edited by ArchonFarseerGuy; April 13th, 2009 at 14:38.
I wrote two articles for my website:
Where career meets hobby: http://kan.org/michael/mkp/10lessons.php and,
Why gaming is a great hobby for kids: http://kan.org/michael/mkp/gamingwithkids.php
As someone who's popped in and out of hobby, I would not be too worried about giving it up. It sounds like you might be more into the fluff/painting/modelling etc, and there are few hobbies that you can pick up for 15-30 minutes at a time, which suits a busy schedule well.
For people who have a more childish reaction to your hobby, take some time to read the articles and structure your thoughts on what else the hobby teaches you.