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With the new material coming out for 40K as of late like APOC and Planet Strike, there seems to be a lot more options out there for the hobby.
It seems both new comers to the hobby and old vets can find common ground in their likes AND dislikes of the new changes and features to the hobby.
I find myself to be happy with being able to convert and paint miniatures how I like without being burdened by the thought that I just wasted money, as I could never use that model in a game as “legal” or whatnot.
As for the new prices, I know some are die hard against them. As other are just neutral. I admit, our hobby is by no means cheap, and GW prices are steep compared to other miniature companies at times.
But the new box sets that have been coming out are in a way…not cheaper per say, but more accessible.
As in it’s much easier and quicker to be able to afford a $25 box then it is a $35 or $45 box. While you don’t get as many models, you are able to get them quicker and it’s not as hard to budget it in with life’s other demands.
But GW prices have always been an issue, and always will be.
The gist of this post is to ask the community for their input. What do we really see for the future of the hobby? Is it going to grow into a larger entity or fade away into dust?
Here are some of the things I have been hearing here and there.
- More campaigns that effect the Warhammer/40K universe in a dramatic way.
- More to help the relationship between GW and the players
- A more tactical edge to combat with more options than just shoot them or hit them (perfectly fine for Ork players though!)
- Better options creating your own rules and armies
- Mini box sets ala the ones that include an APC and troops or commander and bodyguards.
- More models in plastic
So, post what you think and what you want. It should be interesting to see what people think of the future of our hobby.
- More models period. (everyone has something they want made)
This is a really interesting topic! The truth is, I'm worried about GW. Even without the price increases, times are hard and uncertain. It's a miracle GW has been around as long as it has been, most game companies I grew up with long ago are long gone...
But! Happy thoughts! If GW continues to prosper, what do I wish for the future?
I would like to see GW make a new emphasis on small scale combat. Not to replace 1750-2500 standard armies, but to make small scale combat more exciting and fun. Not necessarily new rules, but battle reports, scenarios, mini-tournaments. GW is most excellent when it comes to inspiring excitement about the game. When I finally broke down and bought the $50 Fantasy and 40K rule books, I was mesmerized by the background information, lavish illustrations, and hobby guides! It made me want to play so much!
(Of course, I wouldn't mind them making the small paperback versions available seperately too. The hardbacks are kind of big and heavy, and some people can't afford them easily)
It would be nice if they would fill the gaps in their present production lines.
GW should make it a point to emphasize the long term nature of the hobby. I can barely manage to get my 1750 Sisters of Battle Army done by the RTT here in Hawaii this year, let alone play a 3000 pt Apocalypse. But those are things to shoot for, to aspire to. Again, that's why I want them to support small scale gaming. It's unrealistic to expect a new player to go like 'Wow! I've just discovered 40K! It will take me a year to purchase and paint a useable army!' When people first get into something, they wanna play -now- lol!
Other than that, I'm kind of happy with how the hobby is right now. When I've played for a bit I will probably have some new ideas. Thanks for a great topic!
I'm hoping for some new races to be introduced, more cheaper plastic models and soem higher quality paint brushes.
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Thanks for the replies. I really want the Libraruim community to hit this up, for no reason other than to just REALLY see how the feelings are out there.
Interesting points there Francois, 40K was always a cool thing that was just to hard to get into.
But once your in.......
I see your point in smaller scale combat, as I have heard that one time and time again.
Many times I see that ppl make thier own combat missions just for this.
I miss games of Kill team, and wish there was more in that vein of style for the married guys with about an hour of time a week to themselves.
Hamsterlord20, there are many that ask for the same things you did. The cheaper plastics is a big one, but taking in the economy and the quality, you have to be sure you dont trade the price in for a shoddy model. None the less, lower prices would be nice no matter.
New races would be great as well, though with the Dark Eldar and Necrons still needing work and not to mention the Fantasy area that has work to be done.
Now the paint brush one is a first time request for me. Though it would be nice if they did offer an advanced line of brushes for special purposes. They do offer some now, but some new ideas on special use brushes would be interesting to see.
While I never played it much, I really wish GW would bring back some sort of the "Kill team" or "40k in a flash" skirmish sort of stuff. The trend toward these massive 3+ hour games worries me. It's going to discourage new players even more, and I can tell you I have zero interest in a game that huge. Given the obvious financial constraints of owning and playing a 40k army, I for one am largely discouraged to start a new army since I know it's going to be months and a couple hundred bucks (US) before I can even hope to TRY IT OUT. On the other hand, Kill Team would give me the option of putting together a squad or two and IMMEDIATELY have something I could get on the table and go with. In time, that would encourage me to do more with the army, especially if I liked it. Right now, GW's rules force me to make a huge investment before I even know if I like it. Yes, I know I could ask around, borrow a friend's army, etc., but GW shouldn't rely on players to do that to encourage themselves to get involved. GW should be doing the encouraging. The AoBR set is nice, but GW needs to do more than just that. I want to be able to play a game on my lunch hour again!
Speaking of the AoBR set, it would be nice if GW did actually support small game sets like that more often.
I REALLY do think that small skirmish style games could really add some love back to the game. APOC is nice, but you need SO ********* much to get a good game going, and rarer is the time to play such a game.
I wonder if there are any plans to officially bring something like this back into the limelight.......one can wonder...
I also would like something like this. "40k in 40 minutes", "Combat patrol" were also fun formats to play.I really wish GW would bring back some sort of the "Kill team" or "40k in a flash" skirmish sort of stuff.
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Hello Captain Sarathai!
Will Online RPGs and Computer Games replace Table Top Miniature Games or provide revenue to keep our hobby strong? Will movies create a surge of interest in 40K or drain GW of all funds by flopping badly at the box office?
I wish Rick Priestly were here in our darkest hour...
Well, lol I do wish the old GW crew was back and active, but things aren't so bad...yet? I'm heartened by the fact that the very popular World of Warcraft is moving into the miniature game field. To me it means that they view miniatures as a viable industry. GW should diversify so they can compete with hybrid companies. In the end, we must pray and hope that the GW Lords of Terra are always gamers at heart that love their roots in table top games best
But what on earth happens to Andy Chambers, Rick Priestly, Jes Goodwin...? Every year I see articles by new people, and I have nothing against them, but I like to think my old fave designers and artists are being treated well
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well to keep it short.
They need to rewrite the main rules to fix all the unbalancing bugs and inconsistencies.
They need to add an advanced rule setting for those of us that think it's too simplistic.
they need to balance the codices.
THEY NEED TO PLAY TEST THE #%¤ING THING!
I haven't spent a dime on this hobby since about 5:th ed SM came out and I really don't think I will spend anything more on this hobby until the fanboiism at gw ends.
Hmmm I think I'll stick to mathhammer and campaign writing because they have had 26! years to fix this and they just don't care.