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Anyone else notice on page 3 of the big rulebook it says you must glue the models onto the spaces they come with. Thats fine and all, but daemons come with square and circle bases. The book does not specify in any way shape or form you need to use the circle bases only. It says you must use the ones provided. So legally square based Daemons can be used in a 40k tournament and be legal.
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I guess that is true however if the tournament has its own rules on bases and says that all the models for a 40k tournament have to be on round bases then you cannot.
Also it would look really tacky. Nothing against square bases they look awesome in fantasy but in 40k where one side is using round bases and the other is using square bases it would look tacky.
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If your cheap enough to buy one set of models to have an army for both games you could at least spend all the money you didnt spend on a second arm and buy some magnets. Unless of course your not playing daemon armies and you use the unit in two different flavours of chaos.
Iam pretty sure that there are 2 rules about basing One dictates the size models of certain on and the other is that you can always use a bigger base but not a smaller one. This may be from 4th ed but think about the implications of square bases in 40k. Square bases have more surface area than round bases which translates to more chance of being caught in a blast template.
Yeah, i have noticed this before, and in the hands of the wrong player it can be a problem. I once faced a guy who played (old) 40K Chaos, and his Daemons had square bases. When it came to movement, he would turn the units bases such that the corner pointed in their intended direction of movement and then move the unit, finishing the move measured to a flat edge. Subtle, or atleast he thought Just a little thing you may wana look out for in tourney players for players trying to gain that bit extra movement (its about 1/2" or so iirc).
Generally id advise you stick to circular bases. Although i have seen a good conversion method where you mount the daemon on a circ base, and then the circ on a square base when needed.
But I really don't think it matters. Sure, he was getting a bit of extra movement it's 15mm, if an opponents charge was out by 15mm, I would let him have it anyway.
It's hardly that much abuse. I've played my round based daemons against square based daemons and it was never an issue.
Granted, the dodgyness increases as the diagonal of the base increases.
I doubt a tourny would allow it and, quite frankly, I wouldn't care either way.
To me, a game's a game. Small things like this really don't bother me, ultimately, it's a handicap
I wouldn't really be that bothered TBH, lots of things in 40K still have square bases (mostly cavalry and things with the old bike bases since not everything has the round-edged bike bases yet). I'd prefer round bases, but only because it gives the army a more uniform look. Gameplay-wise I wouldn't really care.
shrug, either way for the guy, the bases aren't that different enough to cause to much difference in gameplay. ultimately, it's fine if they use either for me, but i agree on it looking tacky and would rather my opponent taken the time to make his bases interchangeable.
as for this being a major loophole... no, not really.
edit: yea, the intention of that guy was a more subtle borderline version of trying to 'inch'... and that's one type of thing i hate as well.
If it accidently happens I'd let it slide. I should probably rephrase what I said before.
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