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After some long and careful pondering, I've decided it's time to shelve my army ideas for the Raven Guard, to be possibly pulled out at another time. To get the army that I want, I would have to scrap almost 75% of the models I already own and spend almost double the amount of money as buying a brand new army; not to mention, there has been an overwhelming push of players into the Raven Guard waters, and those who know me well on here should know that that is no good omen for me! I hate tagging along with what everyone else is doing.
So, that leaves me with about 1200 points worth of Space Marines, the vast majority of which is either unopened or at least still on sprues, and a desire to quit the Space Marines. Naturally, that leaves me in an interesting position with plenty of options.
I'll be heading back to uni in a month's time, and won't have a huge amount of time or cash to devote to any hobby like Warhammer, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give it up. I'm considering leaving the hobby for a while until I can get some more cash, but I'm not decided yet.
My options are many and each is difficult to decide upon...
1) Give up Warhammer entirely for a time. This will save me the most money and allow me to concentrate on other things (such as my studies), but I'm not sure I want to do this. Quite a number of years have been spent without an army, even though much of that time has gone into the hobby itself, and I'd like to finally finish something off to game with. I do enjoy my games and theorizing and fluff writing when I get around to it, as well. However, economically speaking, this seems like the best answer. I still have to buy several things for uni, not least of which being my new computer...
2) Stick it out with Space Marines. This is my least favourite choice, simply due to growing kind of bored with the army and models. I tend to shun ultra-popular choices as well, so I'm rather surprised I even took them up in the first place. My main thing, though, is that the 1200 points I already possess, of those, I really only like the use of a couple units/models. In order to turn the force into something I'd really enjoy playing, it will cost much too much money, more than I can spare right now.
3) Change armies to something none of my gaming buddies have. This means, no Tau (although he never uses them anymore), Eldar, Space Marines, Chaos, or Tyranids, and a few of my friends have been whispering of the Orks, so I'd avoid them as well. I've always loved the Dark Eldar, but I don't like most of their models and the codex is starting to get far too outdated to have any true originality, so I am very hesitant to go back in that direction. Whatever I choose to do, regarding armies, I want to make sure it costs a reasonable amount less than the Marine army I was shooting for.
4) Abandon 40k, and go to Fantasy. I've always wanted to get into Fantasy, but I've never actually tried it out. The problem here is deciding upon which army to choose (I am leaning towards Dark Elves or Lizardmen), and finding people to play with. None of my regular gaming buddies play, and I have had bad experiences gaming against people I don't already know and hang out with. I could possibly get one or two into it with me, and potentially my dad as well, but I'm not sure if I should abandon a system I'm completely familiar with to head back into the fantasy world...
5) Abandon 40k, and go to Privateer Press. Many people have done this already, and I feel like it would be fun to explore either Warmachine or Hordes more fully than I have. The models are great, the games are smaller and seem to be more action packed, and the armies (if you are okay with skimping a tad on huge variety) look to be a little bit cheaper than 40k. The problem here is again, learning a new system, as well as having no opponents. The models also take a tad bit more work than the plastic models of Warhammer; a lot of pinning is involved, for best stability, which I've never really attempted before.
Not to toot my own horn, but I tend to be very obsessive about studying every angle of a problem and studying every possible solution and the likes. I've studied 40k, Fantasy, Privateer Press games, and I've thought long and hard about each possibility.
However, it gets to the point where all my thinking stops me in my own tracks, and I'd like to hear what some of the members of LO have to say about it. Have any of you hit the same spot, and what did you decide on in the end?
Thanks in advance, folks!
*Sighs* Lost Nemsis, you are a crazy crazy person.
Unfortunately I must agree with you, getting a themed army I'm happy with for any force has been...strenuous on my checkbook.
I think if you want to play for cheap for a while, and take a break from the warhammer scene PP might not be a bad plan.
Otherwise you should play Necrons, because they are way more awesome than anything else in 40K.
Fantasy...that's a tough choice I think both of those armies are really cool, and I think they're both reasonably cheap to get running. So question is...do you want blades or scales covering your entire body?
For a fun, balanced system with all the economical sense a student needs, why not try out Battlefleet Gothic?? Free rules, no constant codex updating, and a starter 1000 point fleet for something in the area of $100! (depending on fleet choice, of course)
Heck, for that price you can build an opposing fleet too, so friends can give it a try.
1) You don't have to give up warhammer to not spend money on it. I regularly read all sections on the forum and ponder effective army lists
2)Keep your marines! with rumors of a possible Blood ravens codex and the confirmed space wolves codex due in Oct, you may find your hands are itchin to draw up some army lists for some fluffy concepts. Egil Ironwolf's space wolves Mech force? 2nd Company blood ravens detachment led by Davin Thule? Cursed Foundings anyone?
3) Don't commit to anything yet is my advice. I am going to wait for the DE codex to come out before I spend my hard earned cash and the waiting for the release will give you time to do your studies.
4) Why not look at the posts for the fantasy section in the forum and do a small detachment of something like lizardmen or skaven. I'm sure your friendly local gaming store will introduce you to it and play a few games.
5) No harm in looking. Its cheaper to make a viable force than 40k and can be a side hobby. I currently have a unpainted warmachine Deneghra (seems like not many people are playing Cryx?) and have my eyes set on Terminus, although I have heard some of the models are a nightmare to assemble (bigger ones) and require pinning. Regardless, the models look decent and unique. Skorne (Khorne anyone?) seem to be kicking up a fuss in Hordes and the models look solid.
To add it all up, why not do it all? No-one said you have to do it now and the longer you wait, the newer the models will be available.
I can sympathise with your decision to shelve the Ravens. I'll give you my opinion on each choice and then tell you which one I think I would go for.
Overall, I think the best two options would be to collect Necrons or cross over to Fantasy for a while. As I've said, Necrons are a great army to collect as well as being very competitive, and Fantasy is fun although different from 40K. I would be leaning towards collecting Necrons personally, since that way at least you still have people to game with. At the end of the day it's up to you, but I think that would be the way I'd go in your position.
Hope that helps
~ Demon in White
I just learned something (don't really have much else to say, still waiting on more replies - thanks for those who have replied thus far!). While a friend of mine does play Eldar, a local shop of mine (I have two, but this is the only one where I respect the owners and players who frequent it) apparently has a distinct lack of Eldar players, which I found to be odd. The owner said that he hasn't had a dedicated Eldar player for almost seven years!
Which, of course, tempted me to go Eldar... I'm not sure what I'll be doing yet, but that's an option. They have 40k nights every Monday and Privateer Press nights every Tuesday, which is convenient, even though I'll be heading to uni about thirty to forty minutes away starting late August.
Small world isn't it......
I recently got fed up of my Space Marines which of course were;
Just like yourself I had no compulsion to make the army tournament proof (going fluffy Raven Guard meant only one real anti-tank, a Dreadnought, but 30 Assault Marines )
I too had to decide what to do. Did I take a break, switch to Fantasy or change 40K armies? I have too much enjoyment from the hobby for (1), am toying with (2) which left a new 40K army. Likewise there were many armies I didn't want to do, and even brought some Dark Eldar warriors (didn't last long though).
What have I ended up with?
Yep, that's right, Eldar!
I am going Alaitoc, making a small 'elite' force comprising Warp Spiders, Rangers (lots), Wraithlords and an Avatar. I am even thinking of trying to make a pure Warp Spider aspect shrine, but have run into some potential 'counts as' problems (see thread in Eldar).
So, you're not alone.
I think you should go with eldar if you like the idea. It’s a very diverse army, which means lots of different play styles, painting, and modelling opportunities. You could always do eldar and Privateer Press as i always found Privateer Press games are cheap.
University wont be as bad money wise as you think, everyone i know (myself included) expected been so skit it would hurt but it isn't so bad. Once you been there a month or 2 you will start to be able to find that extra bit of money for the hobby .
"Should take you a while though because of your sloth like pace"
Click here and watch Gedderz try and cross the road
But why not try a variant such as Warbands, or even better get some buddies and play Mordheim?
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