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Hey fellas and gals,
I've been painting quite a bit lately and have finally been blessed to find a girl who loves to play games as well. We love to play board games together and lately we've been doing a bit more dice rolling. I've been painting Warhammer Fantasy and 40k armies for a while and I've done my fair share of playing, but perhaps I need something more. The Warhammer genre is fun and exciting but after a while I feel like there's a continual rut that develops.
I've been looking around here and other sites as well as my local gaming store. I want a new game to play and paint as well so I don't begin to hate my Warhammer experience.
Mordheim is fun but many people don't play it. I used to love playing that. My gf is looking to get into whatever game I'm in so that she can stomp me (man, I love her competitiveness!)
Here are my thoughts so far:
Flames of War (Not sure which era)
I'm looking for something where the rules aren't ones that make you wish you could shoot yourself in the head and also where the price for models isn't incredibly insane (yes, which is probably easier said than done). Any feedback would be great, I'm open for any new games that come to mind!
Ive got one word for ya NECROMUNDA! Its a rerally good game to play with someone you can play often (your gf), as the entire rules set is based on an insanely amazing campaign system, with arguably some of the most intense and realistic rules in any gamr GW has ever produced. As far as price goes, everything you need to get playing should ring up to about $30 canadian. The rule book is a free pdf on the games workshop website, as you play warhammer and 40k you will have the measuring tape dice templates lready, so all you should need to buy is a squad of catachans for your gang. They can easily be used to represent any gang, with just the smallest bit of conversion work (green stuff cloaks for delaque gangs for example) all you need is a small bitz box already established for guard parts such as heavy stubbers or bolters from marines which aren't too hard to come by. The reason I reccomend catachans over the actual necromunda models is, that the necromunda sets are not customisable and come with all metal models. Catachans you can equip how you feel short of close combat weapons and heavy weapons butthats why I reccomend a bitz box already. Need a shotgun, chop the end off a lasgun, autogun add a section of the ammo feed for a guard heavy bolter, need a lasgun... well that ones pretty self explanatory. Worst case scenario you proxy models to test out the free rules in a two or three game campaign (just so you can see how the experience and level ups so to speak catch your attention) and decide you don't like it before you blow even the minor amount needed to play. Anyways good luck to you and your gf with whatever game you pick cheers
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I'm afraid I can't help much with Flames of War and Warmachine, I don't know much about them at all.
I've never played Mordheim myself either, but I've heard good things about it. It's true that not that many people play, but that's true of most of GW's specialist games. The thing is, they're all good games. One of the main reasons that they aren't played as much is because they aren't supported as much by GW, and generally that's because it's much cheaper to amass an army in the specialist games than in the core games, so GW make less money off them.
I'm just getting into Battlefleet Gothic myself, which is a fantastic game, with some really nice models, and it's cheap compared to a lot of games. I'm actually pleased that it doesn't get much support from GW, because if it did they would most likely start releasing new editions like they do in 40k and FB, despite the fact that the game is brilliant already, which would probably end up making it a worse game than it is now.
Thou shalt remember:
Warhammer Fantasy armies do NOT have Codices. They have Army Books.
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I used to play a lot of Talisman with one of my old girlfriends. It's maybe a bit different to the kind of thing you were thinking of but that may turn out to be a big plus since you're looking for something different. Superb game, very 'lady friendly' and comes highly recommended.
Because Sun Tzu would play Tomb Kings...
As there are literaly hundereds of games out there can you be a bit more specific?
As board games go, I can recomend Blood Bowl!(Simple rules tons of in game action and tons of fun to play!!)
AT43 has a great rule set, and good starter sets, so does Classic Battle Tech.
If you want to use your 40k minis with a diferent rule set how about Stargrunt II , No limits, Chain reaction 3 etc, all FREE to down load.
Also check out 'freewargamesrules' on the internet for other free wargames rules. fancy that!
And GW let you down load the SG rules for free too!
So before you drop a load of cash on something you might not like ,why not try some FREE alternatives first.
Happy Gaming ,
Last edited by Lanrak; August 3rd, 2009 at 20:27.
I just got one word for you - Aeronautica Imperialis (Well, that was two, but you get the point...)
AI - so simple, yet advanced. (And in general, loveley models too...)
Currently painting the Waaagh! of Warboss Borboss - Goff and Evil Sunz warband
Although I have never played many of the games listed her I will still stick my neck out for Necromunda, I would reccomend it very highly to anyone thirteen, preferably already with exprience in another game by GW especially fantasy or 40k, as to already be farmiliar witbh much of the stats, and their applications, as up as the rules set can be difficult for some begginers. It is a very fast paced game, and can be easily played in ony an hour, to help with any time contraints, and as I have already stated money, will almost never be an issue with Necromunda.
Ask me about the Black and White Space Marine on the Black and White Bike!!!
Well, there's loads of them out there. And as a gamer who has engaged himself in a lot of non-GW games let me welcome you with open arms! There's loads of great games.
What do you like? Sci-fi? Fantasy? Does it matter?
Warmachine/Hordes is a great steampunk-ish/full metal fantasy with some pretty intense and different (compared to Warhammer) rules. A new faction is going to be released this autumn and the Warmachine rules will receive a Mk II/second edition-upgrade in January.
WM/Hordes has become somewhat expensive lately sadly, but PP is starting to publish plastic models so hopefully that will change.
Infinity is a sci-fi skirmish game produced by the Spanish company Corvus Belli and holds some pretty incredible models (IMO they are the best sci-fi mini producers at the moment). Here's some examples.
The rules for Infinity are very different. Easiest way to describe them is something like Necromunda... combined with some Confrontation 3... and a lot of unique and cool twists added into the mix. I can say that both players are constantly involved in the game and they can react to what their opponent does with their models. It's difficult to explain, but trust me it's great. It's pretty cheap as well, since you only need 8-15 models and they are not very expensive to get. The rules are available for free on the web as well.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm really enjoying this a lot. I mean, don't get me wrong, I do like WH Fantasy and 40k (more fantasy over 40k though), but I feel that people tend to exploit the rules a bit with those two games. I've come across the feeling that way too many games can already be called simply by the way people set their lists up and I've grown tired of that. I want some randomness and the very possibility that no matter how well you gear or tinker a list, it can be obliterated by some random event that leaves you wheeling.
Nercomunda appears to be the 40k variety of Morheim and I very much like that idea. I love the idea that you can actually download free rules/ game backgrounds to see what they're about. It's sad to see so many different games/companies being simply fueled on profit.
Infinity looks very intriguing, the models look awesome as well.
I'm taking a good while to look into all of the games you guys have showed me, it's a ton of fun. Just by chance though, have any of you played Flames of War?
ListHammer is indeed a pain and I know it as well. Warmachine/Hordes has some of it but generally it comes down more on how you set up combos and synergies and knowing how to exploit them.
Infinity on the other hand is almost totally devoid of it, relying completely how you manoeuvre and lead your teams rather on what they include. Sure, some things are good to have and some lists are better, but that doesn't mean you can take it easy because if you do that a vastly inferior list will massacre you.
I haven't played FoW, but I have understood that historical gamers calls it the "40k" of WW2 games. And not in a bad way! They mean that it's fairly easy to get into and doesn't get bogged down in unnecessarily complicated rules meant to make the game "realistic", while still keeping it advanced enough to keep it fresh.
It's quite expensive though.