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I'd like everyone's feedback and opinions on something that I've been discussing with the gamers around here.
If a new 'Army Builder' style program were to pop up sometime in the near future, do gamers want a desktop app that they can install and run anywhere, or do you think that computer assisted army generation has moved with the times and an online app is more suitable?
Around here, the feeling is generally that they would like a desktop app...but I feel we've got beyond that point.
What are your thoughts?
Any feedback would be appreciated!
I've been thinking about this recently too....strange.
My idea was an online database as such....you pick your army and then units and equipment, spells, etc and it tallies up how many points the army is.
I think it would be a great tool for newcomers especially but very useful for anyone.
I think to produce a desktop program mean downloading/buying software and installing, etc
which not everyone can/wants to do
Whereas an online app is easily accessible with an internet connection with no installation required.
I'd personally prefer an online app but it's not always possible to get online.
Maybe have it printable to CSV so it can be imported to a spreadsheet program or even just printable to a document or pdf so it can be taken offline easily, even a file format that can be uploaded into the app could be useful (again, CSV may be better for that) so you can print off a list and upload it again to tweak it or share it with others if it's a success at the game club.
Fantasy: Wood Elves, Dark Elves, Beastmen and Tomb Kings.
LotR: Misty Mountains and Rohan
Blimey, this all sounds complicated. Think i'll stick to doing mine on the back of a fag packet in my lunch break.
Jager bombs. Very efficient at wiping out friend or foe.
Do it the old school way, it gives you a feel for the army!
It also gives you a chance to royally mess up. I've gone home and checked opponent's lists and the results were shocking...I'd love to have a Desktop version, which allows you to load and print your lists. Back it up with an online database, which lets you download only the armies which you need. 'ArmyBuilder' has you download all of the armies, which is fine, but not everyone needs a copy of the 'Chaos Dwarves' army roster.HighElf players taking only a single Core unit in a 2k game (I caught this at the table, but didn't want to make him re-do his whole list once we'd deployed)
Empire players running massive detachments, when in reality they can only be half the size of their parent unit (again, caught in the deployment phase)
Tallying up a WoodElf army to find that it's a full 300pts over the agreed limit.
My friend telling me that he has all of his equipment loadouts "in his head" and then changing gear on me halfway through the game.
Illegible tournament rosters, which caused all manner of headaches amongst the staff.
On the other hand, an online method would be cool if it were extremely simplified- enough to allow me to access it on my Droid. Or... just make an actually App for it. I'd love to be able to be able to write army lists while I'm sitting in the middle of a boring sermon (I'm in the Easter spirit, haha).
So... I demand you do this. Please?
Thanks for all of the input so far anyway.
From what I gather, here and elsewhere, it seems a desktop app still has it's place in automated roster validation =)
At the moment I think it might be a case of desktop first then web/mobile later.
I'd like to point out that most of the names and point values for every Games Worksop product are protected under copyright infringment laws. So wether they did an online program or a downloadable computer based program, the program would have to be lisenced by Games Workshop, and you would therefore need to pay good money for it, above and beyond the money you have already spent on your codex. I'll stick to pencil/paper.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams
So onto your original post. If you're thinking of making something similar, make it online (and it would have to be free). Army Builder already has a solid desktop program with tons of support and community. If you charge for it, or start taking donations, you'll start getting some angry letters from GW's legal staff.