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Hey guys and gals, Id just like to let you know that I will be very likely be quitting this fantastic hobby, id just like to give you a bit fo a backstory as to why, aswell.
First of all. It is so expensive it blows my mind, I currently have over 2000 points of both tyranids and lizardmen, and im not even going to start on the expenses.
second, I feel isolated in my gaming environment, Im just an average 16 year old guy, but, whatever club I go to, all I find are little kids who annoy me(and get new armys every WEEK), veterans who dont shower, veterans who are pretty cool, but wayyy too competitive, and people who are just plain annoying, of course, there are a few exceptions to this, but I really cant stand playing one person over and over.
Also, id like to add that im not embarrased at all by my hobby, but I just cant see many reasons right now as to why I should keep playing.
I need some help guys ;(
I am in exactly the same boat as you. I am of the same age, the same financial predicament, and the same situation gaming wise, although with a little extra predicament: I live quite a fair distance from a GW store, and have not met any gaming clubs who are into Warhammer, let alone know what it is. I have thought about giving it up too, having started about 8-9 years ago, when I was really young, and only saw it as yet another little thing that I just had to have; an accessory to my ever-growing demands and needs as a child.
Now though, when I look back at my accomplishments in the hobby, I would have to say that I have no regrets whatsoever. Sure, I am definitely not the best painter in the world, nor the best gamer. I forget certain things all the time, like failing to get something while I made my annual trip to GW, or not remembering a rule when I was playing in my first ever tournament, and getting absolutely cleaned in the first round. And I am certainly far from knowing all there is to know about fluff and stories in the 40K and Warhammer universe.
But do you want to know why I keep going with the hobby? Why do I persist in getting beaten by players who are FAR better than me? Why do I keep changing my painting schemes on all my models over and over again? Why have I read the rulebook for the 1000th time, even though I always end up going over the same things? It is because there is ALWAYS something new to discover, and learn. There is ALWAYS something new to explore and understand the concept behind. There is ALWAYS something exciting and challenging waiting out there.
Yes, to keep up with something for so long is indeed hard. There are many, many factors that can contribute to the reasons why you must retire. However, one has to look beyond the problems that are right up in their face. If you look deeply enough, you will find infinitely more routes to take around them. New possibilites will always come your way, and you should never overlook them. If something, like your finances is getting you down, then work the problem, and you will ALWAYS find a solution. Wait patiently, with what you have, and the amount of money that you own, until you are ready to go and get something new again. Do not buy everything in marginal quantities. Ensure that you only get the bare neccessities that you need, and those things that intrigue you in a fairly large hit. You will find that if you space out minimal purchases at different points in time, you will have dug a deeper hole than if you bought everything in large sums. Think about it.
There are people out there who think that winning is the only thing that matters in life, and that the only way that they are going to make something of themselves is if they are sitting at the top, looking down on all of the others who didn't make it. This is a fool's errand, and anyone who thinks that, and fails, will fall much harder than those who actually care about what they are trying to accomplish. Even if they make it to the top, it is not enough, and they will start to regret it, and sap the enjoyment out of it for the others around them. If you enjoy the game for what it is, and not for the prestige and grandeur, than you will find that it will be much more rewarding, and it will only persist you onto greater things. This is what I have been trying to say. Say you paint a model, and you think it is some of the greatest work that you ever done, the only thing that matters is what YOU think of it, and nobody else. Sure, it is good to hear what other people would say about it, and everyone should have he right to say what they want about. But the only thing that should be of importance is ultimately your own decision. Say you play a game, with a highly egotistical person, who is ready to pummel you into dust even if you make one swift, false move. If you dare not care a thing about the outcome of that battle, and have fun playing it for yourself, then THAT is all that is of importance too. It makes it much more worthwhile if your opponent thinks along the same terms, but if they do not, then under no circumstances should you let that bother you.
Enjoyment and humility is a vital thing in life, and is absolutely essential for a person to truly understand what life is all about. A thing like Warhammer should not consume your life (and your wallet), and eventually there will be a time when enough is enough, but you are still 16, as am I. We are at that age where we need to start to appreciate life for what it is, and for what it gives us. You have to apply the same reasoning to the hobby. If you do not enjoy life, you will not understand it, and therefore you will not appreciate it for what it is. It is exactly the same thing with Warhammer.
I am a deep philosophiser, and I know that I talk too much, but I hope that will take the time to re-read what I have said to you, and this goes for anyone out there who is considering giving it up. Age is of no consequence, and the decision will be entirely and absolutely your own choice, but think strongly about it before you make your choice, for it can have drastic conseqences. The same for the hobby too.
Hope that helps!
Light a fire for a man, and he will be warm for a night. Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
hmm, at such times it may be worth taking out those few you like, and start a new club by yourself, gaming at home or such, or search for another gaming environment in the neighbourhood.
Or you might store your mini's away for a while untill you feel the urge to come back
"They always come back" so don't do them away, you would regret that later on
First things first....DO NOT GET RID OF YOUR MODELS! You will regret it.
I'm 27 and getting back into the hobby after a 5 year hiatus. I've walked away many times, but never permanently. I've gone from uber competitive gamer to recluse who only paints and back. I love the universe that is Warhammer. Still love 40k, with sites like this it easy to keep up to date.
One of the biggest things is have fun. I know easy to say and hard to do but its truth. I've been lucky and mainly played with friends who suck at the game just as much as I do. I honestly cant tell you how many wins or loses I've had but I can tell you stories about retarded stuff thats happened in game. As far as the money situation goes. Ebay is a wonderful place to go. Lots of great deals. I dont know your work situation ( as if your allowed to or not) but perhaps you can set a budget. I know it was in white dwarf many moons ago about a guy who built a decent sized army only spending $50 a month.
Who says you have to play? Buy some models and just paint them. I have many hobbies and I like to paint to relieve stress.
Its too late to make a long story short but dont despair. At 16 now is the time to explore everything. Dont think of it as quitting 40k but as a break to explore other oppritunites. We'll wait for yah.
Green iz da' BEST!
Orkz is made fer' two fings! Fightin', and winnin'!
I've been there many times as well.
I started with Warhammer about 10 years ago (OMFG it's been that long already?!!). Anyhoo, I can't imagine the amount of times I've quit, actively or just stopped doing anything with it.
I haven't had many friends who enjoyed the hobby at the same level as I did, and I never was much for playing strangers.
I once went to a tournament in a different city (also my first), I lost HARD, I didn't enjoy the people at all, as you said, either kids or smelly uber competitive guys who are just a pain to play with.
Some how I always come back to it.
Last year when WoC came out, I bought a bulk of miniatures. I assembled them and put them in the closet. Now I'm starting to pull them back out and hopefully get my WoC-log back up to date.
Don't worry that you have lost your interest in the hobby, its not permanently. And if it is, by the time you realize, you'll have allot more things to do and wont miss it. When you do miss it, its time to get back on that old horse called Warhammer.
A tip to building cheap armies; MAELSTROM GAMES and ebay are your friends.
Also, don't buy something because its cool, but you have no use for. I have countless character models and greater Daemons I never use. That is easily a couple of hundred bucks I could have spend on better things. Like drinking!
I hope this helps you somehow.
can he just do that? get up and quit? tell me he cant do that guys!
Might sound a bit dorky, but sometimes its a good thing to have a break and take a step back. Get a different view on thing and realise theres more in life than these awesome models. no need to force yourself into the game,
dont sell the stuf just yet, i regret having sold some models before...
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I'm a fair bit older than you (24 years to be precise), but I know what your going through. Whenever I have felt hacked off by the hobby I have given it a rest and instead built the odd airplane, ship, WW2 tank etc produced by the many non-GW companies (and may I say a whole lot cheaper, but using the same tools, paints etc).
This has meant that I still make models (which for me is one of the best parts of the hobby), save money and spend more time on a single project (painting an Airfix Spitfire in high detail takes a long time). There are also some events in the UK to enter your models, which are not a closed shop like Golden Demon seems to me to be, should you wish to.
What's more I am at that point right now. I have built up 3000 points of Necrons (which with conversions has been expensive) and can't afford a 'new' army. The result, I am taking a break to assemble and paint the Bismark kit. I am sure that after 3/4 months I will be ready again for 40K and in the mean time the Necrons will survive quite happily in the display cabinet in the living room.
As they say, a change is as good as a rest.
Last edited by dinodeanpostcat; June 21st, 2010 at 19:10.
Don't quit, thats what 'they' want you to do.
Just pop your models in a draw and try not to think about 40k. I bet you can't !!!!!!!!!!!
The hobby has many sides to it, i love almost all apart from playing against people who are dicks and for some reason 40k attracts them like flys to hot dog poo.
I played at my club last week and i totally agree about the stinky players, why do 40k vets feel the need to go for a 10 mile run before a game and neglect to shower? Can they not smell themselves?
But if your not into gaming right now, maybe try reading the fluff more, i love the b.l books i buy atleast 2 books a month and i must spend more timing reading than anything else. Or maybe just stick to painting? i paint for around 8 hours a week and it gives me nice break from the laptop or ps3. i have a very stressful job so it helps get me in my happy place where the world is about ever lasting battles and not customer service management.
Anyway it would seem i'm only repeating the others above me, so in short don't do anythiing you might regret like selling all of your models oor throwing away your army books. Thiis hobby is for life, trust i'm 30 and i still love this game after 100 years of playing it.
I AM BOOMER!
I quit the hobby when I was 16, I was leaving my school to go to another sixth form and I was getting into beer, girls and going to gigs. I never played and just lost interest in it- plus I needed what little money I did have for other things! I didn't touch a miniature again until I was 22 when I had more time and money to invest in it. But yeah, dont sell your miniatures (not all of them anyway) because in ten years time when you get back into it the game will be even more expensive!
PLAN CLAN MAN!!
He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man- S. Johnson