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So I'm currently on my third WH40k army (Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, and now Chaos; though I barely count the DE anymore), and had not long ago bought out all of a friend's IG stuff and started a fantasy army. The collection is quite nice, but now I'm beginning to have several problems that are leaving me more mentally exhausted after gaming.
Since I have such a huge IG force, I've become the default go-to guy in my group for any games over 2000 points, and since a friend of mine has been borrowing my guard to play against me to try it out before he buys his own force, I'm basically unpacking, setting up, and re-packing an Apocalyptic force once or twice every week. I even remember having a 4000 point Apocalypse game dropped on me completely out of the blue.
I barely have time to really digest everything that happens in these games anymore that I hardly even strategize with my lists. I start thinking in terms of 'what's the least number of models I can have to get out at this point total?' And this creates further problems in getting stuck in a fairly static playing style, and other people trying new and wacky things that I can't possibly compensate for. For example, after GamesDay, at least two or three people are going to be walking out with small airforces from Forgeworld for more Apoc games, and I don't have a single Hydra or LR Exterminator model to work with, which means I'll have to buy almost an entirely new army's worth of stuff just to keep up.
I mean, just every week having to drag out at least 3000 points of models, and barely having any time to paint or model any of them (so I'm just playing with largely primed-only or partially-painted forces... and they're going to stay that way forever) is really starting to wear on my patience. Everyone I play with refuses to go below 1500, and 1500 is their bare-minimum "Well, alright *eyeroll*" limit, as people are starting to get a prefence for 2000-2500 point games. And when it starts getting above 1500, I don't even know what to take anymore; it all just becomes spam or point sinks from there, and there's too much on the table for me to account for or keep track of, even on my side.
And when people start demanding I play this many points, the physical loads I have to carry start to become ridiculous. When I bring just my Chaos army, I usually bring a crate with all my stuff in it, and a box of fantasy stuff to work on. But when I have to bring IG, that's another crate. And I don't even have Valks/Vends, which the competitive enviornment seems to demand I should get considering how powerful they are, and that would easily make a third crate for me to lug around if I got them. And help me if I'm actually called to play an Apoc game, because I've got two baneblades, a stormlord, and a handfull of russes that I have no idea where to put anymore.
So I'm not even sure where I'm going with this. Maybe I should ask for suggestions on some miraculously efficient way to take out and pack away 3000-4000 points worth of models (mostly IG) with little time and effort while keeping it all in the same box, or some way to convince my fellow players to play smaller point totals and not rely on me so much for larger games? I really just want more time to paint/model so that when I am forced to drag out huge armies they look nice and finished, instead of having a bunch of ugly models and proxies. I'd do those things at home, but I'm stuck sharing the same space with 4,5,6 other people at almost all times. So the only time to get the things done is while I'm out at the gaming venues, which is when I'm forced to play this ginormous games and I'm rambling now blah blah blah...
Gaming shouldn't be this stressful. x.x
EDIT: Oh! And there's also the issue of with my Chaos army being non-standard (IE: on foot, no rhino-rushing nurgle marines), and the other lists I'm going up against being so competitive (especially the leaf-blower), that I'm going to be forced to go with the bog-standard Nurgle-Chaos army, which means having to get more vehicles and marines and never having time to assemble them, let alone paint and finished them.
Last edited by Axle_Gear; July 31st, 2010 at 08:41.
Is everyone in your group people that only want to play huge lists that are ultra-competative?
If not everyone is, have a game with ones who aren't, and if anyone badgers you for an apoc game just tell them you need a break from it. If everyone is like that however, explain to them how you feel, and if they still refuse smaller points game then you will have to consider trying to find another group.
why not just play smaller games just because you ahve 1000's of points worth dosnt mean you need to take them all. Put a smaller list together and use that people cant play bigger games with you if you dont have the models that day.
"Should take you a while though because of your sloth like pace"
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Is there someone else you could team up with? 2v1 or 2v2 means someone can pick up the slack your side as long as the points values add up.
Otherwise take a smaller force, like said above. Take stuff that forms an army and also needs working on. If that's not enough for them you can sit and work on your models until they either choose to offer a lower point game or someone else does. Or hell just get some hobby done
Fantasy: Wood Elves, Dark Elves, Beastmen and Tomb Kings.
LotR: Misty Mountains and Rohan
I feel this problem... and I only have a 2000 point army (guard armies are so huge!) it really puts me off going and if I do go, I don't take all of it (unless there is a good reason.)
I think you need to step up and realize that as soon as you're not enjoying this game, and forking out a ridiculous amount of money to fund a horrendous amount of models that you will never get to enjoy - then you should take a break.
Seriously man, if this is stressing you out enough to put together a page-worth of text, you need to have a sit down with yourself and check your priorities.
Make a stand against yourself, because by the sounds of it you're probably eating away money from somewhere. Paint all of your models. Every damn one of them. Make them nice. Paint each guardsman's face differently. Give him a little personality. Think of War movies, everyone's got a personality. everyone's got a name. Even give the guys a first name, and some cliche personality. Maybe he's a toughass German-esque dude, or maybe he's a Chicago-esque guy who misses spaghetti, what the hell ever.
And don't buy any more until you do. Because if your models are a bunch of grey plastic in a crate - you're not enjoying the hobby the way its supposed to be enjoyed. You're spending way too much cash and this whole post you've created is the result of what you're doing to yourself.
It was good to get that venting out of the way, and thanks for the suggestions, everyone. ^^;
At the very least, I'm going to try to take a break from playing 40k for a little while; maybe even focus on my fantasy army just enough to get a 750-1000 point force just so I can try something fresh, and try to get other matters in order in the intervening time (I've got a lot to organize in my life. xx ). And when I get back to 40k, I think I'll probably try to take things in little steps again, maybe force my friends to do a few killteams and 1000 point missions.
If the stress comes from getting out, pointing up, then transporting huge armies you could adapt the way you store. If you write up the costs of individual units on file cards and store each unit i its own small labled box, picking a 1500pt army would be as simple as choosingpremade units up to the poinst value, picking up just those boxes and putting them in a carrier bag.
Even if you don't take a break from 40k, take a break from large apoc sized games, they are great as rare treats, which require a lot of prep work. Try some combat patrol games for a while, or take up Necromunda. In fact, scrap everyhting I said and just take up Necromunda, everyone should, its the greatest game GW have ever made and only needs 20 or so minature and a much smaller table