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Yes, the Island of Blood, I bought it. Thankfully I had a voucher left, so it was easier for me to buy it without hesitation, I patiently waited half a year for something like that. I skipped buying the big, heavy tome, which is called the "8th edition rulebook of warhammer fantasy battes", I hoped the smaller version would be enough.
The small rulebooklet looks nice, is in full colour and has the complete lists of the new magic lores and the new list of magic items. It honestly is the very prove that the actual rulebook had not forcibly to be as big as it is.
For a bigger sum of money I expect at least a leaflet of how to assemble the various minis. There are small pictures on the side of the box instead. As for the minis - they are beautiful, but they are also completely different from the usual plastic sets. The shields are already fully attached, the minis come in different parts. These parts are not typically divided into head, arms, legs, weapons etc. Some of the minis are parted in one front half and the other back half, right through the middle of the body. It's not very helpful in terms of filling your bits box. The poses of the infantry are very static, and you can't remodel them in more dynamic poses, the overall quality in terms of details is fine though. One has to be also very careful getting the minis out of the sprues, since they are attached on very fragile spots.
The complete set (including the booklet) was made in China, so much for the recent price changes. I still have the original box of 4th edition (HE vs Goblins) and the new box looks so much better. It's great stuff to start with. So if you know young folks and want to ignite the fire of warhammer in them, here's a good idea for a fine gift!
Thats how the 'begginer' sets usually are when it comes to models, just one or two places with glue and thats it. I remember when I got the Battle for Macragge... I should really throw out those models, full of gaps and such :s
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Non nagging about the big book. It's twice the size of the 7th edition one and packed with history and cool scenario's, and how much more does it cost compared to the 7th ed?
Well, it is a starterset, so they'd want to get as many mini's in there as cheap as possible. Making them multipart would mean a boatload more sprues. The sprues in 2 boxes of the normal multi-part clanrats would've taken up nearly as much space as the entire set.
I am a little disappointed in GW with this starterset though. The mini's are great, they really are. But the set doesn't contain any info for actual starting players, to start playing a few minutes after opening the box. They'd have to read 60 or so pages of the rulebook to start playing the basic rules, and they have no idea what all the units are equipped with, what their special rules are etc. etc. To actually play with Island of blood they would also need the rulebooks, which is another 50 bucks or so. And I think this might turn away new players because of such a sudden overwhelming complexity. And it might tick off little timmy's parents that to start playing it would cost even more money, while the set is not incredibly cheap as it is. Bad move GW.
At the very, veeeeery least GW could've put in a step by step for the basic rules like battle for skull pass had, and a list of what the rules and equipment for these fellows are. They can look up their profiles in the back of the mini rulebook, sure. But swordmasters with 2 str3 attacks are a lot less effective. A few extra pages in the booklet with this info, how much would it cost to print that extra? A few pennies? Then you can call it a starterset and it'd be true what it said on the box: "all you need to start playing".
O, all the poor fellows that'll open the box and start assembling, and then be left scratching their heads and upset that they need to read 120 pages worth of rules..
Good point! I have no idea how a complete newbie would start that game. Reading the rules booklet takes some time and assembling the minis does too. On the other hand I expect that a beginner will get advise from the local store where he bought it. I assume that new players are attracted by friends and relatives already playing. The box will give them their own rule book and decent 1000 pts. army of their own.
The skaven are about... 230 or so for the clanrats, 100 for the rat ogres, 100 for the warlord, 100 for the warlock if he's lvl2, and around 150 for the weaponteams: 680 pts.
The elves might reach 1000 because of that griffon.
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