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I was just leafing through the Horus Heresy art folio and was reading one of the side panels to a John Blanche picture of the Emperor.
This had a snippet of text that I had read before -- can't remember where I'm afraid -- that states how the Emperor (who was supposed to have first shown his face around the time of the ancient Egyptians I hear) has taken on the persona of Crusader, religious leader, Messiah, etc.. all the way through to advisors and political figures and so forth. The underlying theme being that he is steering humanity towards a single goal of survival.
I was just pondering and contemplating which notable public figures through history to this actual date I would say could be attributed to such an ageless figure guiding the human race to some unknown goal but one that results in unity of the race and its evolutionary dominance.
My initial ideas suggest nation and empire 'builders' but then you have to think that there have been a few 'wreckers' throughout history that have destroyed overall unity in the short term but in the long term done humanity a big favour - furthermore these 'wreckers' tend to be figures of hate initially then later people wonder what the world would have done without them..
What do you think then? Who qualifies and why?
richard the lion heart lead success in the crusade. though this resulted in the deaths of hundreds of men, woemen and children it allowed the west to develope and change for th better. he introduced science fromthe east to medievil europe. thanks to this they could make many advancements that led to better standerd of life for the poor. though he only saw england 3 times he is one of the most widely respected english kings of his time.
Children in the dark cause accidents, accidents in the dark cause childen.
-Jesus(duh) teaching everyone to be nice and kind to each other
-Adolf Hitler, starting the second world war right before nuclear bombs were invented, so that NATO would be formed afterwards, in this way saving the world from nuclear war.
-George W. Bush.. Working for a yet unknown purpose, maybe starting a worldwide crisis so that the age of strife can begin, so that the Emperor may unite humanity.
Ave Dominus Nox!
Actually, Richard the Lionhearted was a total *****... any historian will tell you that he was a cruel, selfish king who taxed the English people heavily to fund his crusade.. The suffering of the English people was actually more due to Richard's actions than that of his brother (John was no better than Richard but the barons did drive him to write the Magna Carta which created more set rules for the people).Originally posted by The Real Leman Russ@Oct 10 2004, 11:27
..though he only saw england 3 times he is one of the most widely respected english kings of his time.[snapback]226901[/snapback]
Anyway, Richard the 1st Lionheart was a selfish, cruel and bad king... The tales of Robin Hood have changed his reputation to something completely wrong.
And yes.. I do study History at university...
Kublai Khan comes into my mind. His Empire entended from China all the way to Europe, and though he ruled with an iron fist, he tolerated all religions and beliefs and did plenty of trading with countries in the west, such as Italy. Because of him, paper, fireworks, pasta and other such inventions were spread worldwide.
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I'm suprised no one has mentioned Julius Ceaser, The originol emperor. whose conquests united Most of Europe under a central rule. Then Jesus, and because the lands were united under rome the religion spread quickly when the roman emperor converted and the people would spiritually unite. Then he was Mohamed, so that Islam could form and learn all the western technology so that when and Byzantium fell their knowledge would not be forgotton.
Also i am getting a litte freaked out that i just said that stuff.
"Everyone should try arrogance, it's absolutely wonderful. You can go out, do whatever you want, and go home. And the best part is, no matter what you do, or how much you ***** everything up, nothing's ever your fault because 'thou art god'."
-Bernard M. Smith, the <u>real</u> Michael Smith and modern day Petronius
I thought of the Great Khans myself. Not for the empire building they did themselves (which was quite impressive) but in that when they penetrated the west and started rolling back the European Kingdoms they stiffened those countries sufficiently that they went from worse than third world countries to becoming the cores of the powerful and militaristic countries they would become.
I also thought William Wilberforce who started the debate on the abolition of slavery in Britain and the Empire. It was in the right place and at a time where the balance could be swung to remove the state's acceptance of slavery. The place being important as the most important trading block in the world at that time. It was a sure thing that everyone else sooner or later would accept the bad morality of ownership of human beings- Infact it brought the ethic that human beings are more useful to humanity as Humans rather than possessions. Of course we may all be slaves in different ways underneath but we are of course slaves to ideologies now rather than other humans..
I then agreed with any of those who worked on the Nuclear weapons projects of the 30s and 40s. A World spanning conflict every three decades was really an unsustainable proposition - population wise if nothing else and a brake had to be created to slow the trend down...
Any of the American Revolutionaries could be classed as being in the right mould. They broke human unity but in the process forced the original body - The British Empire to become far stronger but more importantly for the medium term, laid the foundations for the modern United States.
George W Bush. Maybe. Could be that he is just a reactionary though and the real lynchpin in the whole story was Osama Bin Laden - forcing change and turmoil, removing the possibility of isolationism and stiffening resolve through a radical act.
It also remains to be seen whether the key thread for the future based on that tale is the Western or the Islamic world...
R. Daneel Olivaw from the isaac asimove foundation and robots series. he has guided humanity through history (future history) in its own best interests, according to the now 4 laws of robotics.
Has anyone else noticed any startling resemblance between the imperium and the empire of the foundation books?
ps. no one need tell me that I'm missing the point here. ^_^
- Caesar (fitting fluff wise brutus killed him (his own son), and In 40k the emperor was killed by Horus (also his own son))
- Alexander the great