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I hope everybody is getting tired of seeing threads like this. People need to say enough is enough already. Everybody who reads this post should immediately email blizzard about the BS price hike yet again on there miniatures. I live in Canada and to see something like a Dwarf Lord with Hammer and Sheild sell for 19.00 as a finecast is absolute nonsense! I am wanting so badly to swear to in this post right now. I thought, like im sure many others did, that since there casting them in resin they will be cheaper. Hell no! GW apparently is losing billions on this so they are jacking up the price. I mean lets look at something else, Azhag the Slaughterer is 109.00. 109.00 wtf is that!!!!! Who in there right mind is going to buy that? I cant even save money buying off ebay anymore. Everything on ebay costs what it cost when I was originally driven to ebay! I am seriously thinking of selling off all 4 of my armies and all of my books and washing my hands clean of these greedy bourgeois fools.
Seriously the only way we can make this even slightly affordable for any of us who are not billionaires, is to start hitting GW with all sorts of petitions, complaints in the form of calls/emails/letters/in person at events to there staff or in store. We cant allow them to price gouge us so bloody bad on something that sure as shit doesnt cost them anything extra to make! I have called them already and complained and hit them with an email. Il will write several letters and mail them all with a week on different days to get my point across to them. I would complain to a store or an event but there are none anywhere remotely near me. RISE UP ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
"To Triumph without Risk, is to Conquer without Glory!"
They won't care about letters or petitions. You'd need to get a large portion of their customer base to stop buying and we both know that's about as likely as me waking up next to Sophie Ellis-Bextor.
Thats the reason they keep doing there bs, is because people like you who think things cant change. Look at the world and tell me things cant change. Nothing ever stays the same for a second. Get your game face on like everybody else and say enough to these greedy !@#holes. If they dont listen to complaints we simply escalate and stop buying they will have no choice but to drop prices.
"To Triumph without Risk, is to Conquer without Glory!"
My point was the first step (complaining) is useless if you still buy models. The only way to make your voice heard is to not buy models that you would otherwise have purchased.
Although if you don't purchase many models anyway GW won't even miss your business.
I mostly buy the novels and I am not boycotting those! I've spent maybe £30 on models in the last year so the bottom line wouldn't even notice if I stopped.
I hear you on the prices, I laughed when I saw some of them and thought "well, there goes ever owning that model". I also hear you on the e-bay issue, I don't know what some of these people on e-bay are thinking. I've actually seen items on e-bay that were actually listed as more expensive than what you would pay from GW and I'm not talking about those absurdly priced "pro-painted" models either.
I've watched some battle reports on youtube and I've seen two options available to those who can't afford GW models but still want to play. Use just the bases or less expensive models. I know this doesn't help if you're looking for tourney play though ...
I know. I will stay play but I am not happy. I've seen a general $5+ rise in everything model they have instore and $180AU for some Battalions. I say we should march down to Headoffice in each country and launch a protest on GW. They have blocked Non-GW GW products from Europe and Great Britain from coming to Australia also.
Last edited by rockerbikie; June 4th, 2011 at 13:25.
Look, people, you can complain and boycott GW all the time, but there are still hobbyists out there who are going to keep this thing alive. GW just takes all the hatemail (if it even gets to them) and clicks delete. I think their Facebook has made that pretty apparent, they're sick of people complaining, and they just ignore it now.
Yeah, there's a 5$ price hike coming down the chutes. That comes out to somewhere between 15 and 30% increase for most of the "commonly bought" units out there. Your Characters are going to increase a bit, especially Special Characters. But you don't buy 20 of those, you buy 1. And you can probably convert them anyways.
So lets assume that there's a 23% jack in the prices of an army. I don't know about you guys, but I spend about $400 on an army. Now I'm spending $500. It's an extra hundred bucks. Maybe that's enough incentive for people to slow down and playtest and paint their armies, rather than buy all of it as one big lump of grey plastic (and now resin).
Don't think of me as someone who's got cash coming out of his ears. I don't make a hell of a lot of money myself, by the time it's all said and done, I have about $200 a month unspoken for. That's savings, other hobbies, taking my girlfriend out for dinner, buying myself a nice pair of shoes, the works. And I still manage to have a pretty thriving hobby. No I don't get a new army every month, but I manage.
Don't look at me as someone who says things won't change either. I've looked at the world- it's Capitalism dude, it never changes. Protest will get you things like Civil Rights and maybe a new President. But it doesn't stop Capitalism. GW is a business. It's not your friend, it's not an inalienable right. It's a priveledge. This would be like me emailing Ferrari and complaining that I can't afford to buy an Enzo because they're over-valuing it.
And boycotts? Yeah, that seems like a good plan. I'm going to stop buying stuff for a hobby that I still enjoy, in hopes that it will hurt sales and profits. That way, their first step is to close my local store because it's not making money- cool, there goes my place to hang out with my friends after work. Then we start risking them going out of business entirely. Yes, I wish they'd lower prices so that I could keep playing this game, so I'm going to risk driving the company under so that now nobody gets to play.
Guys, seriously- the public outcry is more than enough. If there were going to be petitions, if there were going to be some kind of a campaign to stop this, there would be. It's a hobby- if people can't afford it, they generally deem that it's not worth the effort to try changing it. They just stop playing. If you feel so strongly, then quit. If you quit, GW isn't getting your business. Local players start running out of opponents and they quit. EBay becomes saturated with people offloading their armies for a quick buck, and prices drop. The surviving players buy from there, and GW's profits plummet. GW start pulling support around the world and even more gamers quit. Eventually, GW games become tantamount to people playing BattleTech- people download the rules on the internet and play with proxies with a group of friends in the basement. No forward progress, no cool new models, nothing. The game just disappears. There, that's putting the screws to GW and teaching them a lesson. Whining on a web forum that they don't even read, calling for some great Marxist-like Uprising, does sod-all.
edit- this issue isn't just limited to WHFB. It should go into the General section, with the other 20 or so complaints about the price hike.
I do have to say that I quite agree with the Captain. GW being capable of raising their prices is a sign of their success and the strong following they've established. While doing such a thing as raising prices does erode their customer loyalty, all it takes is an aggressive release schedule, a few new models, more existing models remade in multi-part plastic kits, and a more frequent update to existing codexes and suddenly that loyalty has been rebuilt. And those are all things that can happen if GW has more cash to play with.
So, even with all the price increases, I do think that things are better now than we remember them to be.
Having been in the hobby for almost 20 years I can certainly vouch that these are pretty much golden times for model quality, release schedule, add ins (scenery, tools, etc), and tie ins (books, games, events).
You know the main difference? It's not prices... it's store staffing levels. There used to be 2 full timers and 2 part timers in most of the local shops. Now Bedford has ONE staff member.