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every time i got to a my local gaming club i see almost every person playing with unpainted models. paint your models its really not that hard and its what your meant to do.
Last edited by pilot00; February 19th, 2012 at 22:12. Reason: Borderline unacceptable language
Yeah, it bothers me, too, but I fully realize some people are in the hobby to play, others to collect and paint, with the rare group that is feverishly into both. I actually enjoy the collecting and painting more than the gaming aspect more often than not (some people are just real pains in the a@@...)
Personally, I would never bring a figure into a game that has not been painted. But, that's just me.
Seeing unpainted armies can be annoying but some times there's reasons why they don't have any paint on them. If people are anything like me, they want to get a model built up and used asap. If I had to paint every model in every army I used, I'd never play ever. Though thatexcuse doesn't stand up as well when you only have like one army and it's something like a Grey Knights Draigowing. Although most of the armies at the store I go to have a lot of unpainted models, most people are slowly building up. But if there's no progress, that annoys me a bit.
I highly agree.
It's only 3 colors...
If you sprayed your base color, then you only need to paint 2 colors in "limited areas."
sorry I was drunk when I made this thread and its just my opinion. I have a heap of unpainted models but i would never be seen with them at a gaming club. it makes me want to stay at home and play on my own tables with the two friends i have who play and actually paint the models they own.
I used to only field models if they were painted, then I grew up and discovered that Real Life can eat up a lot of your time in a hurry. I look at it this way - I can either use my hobbying time to participate here on LO and get actual games in (I have a weekly gaming night) or I can sit around and paint all day.
Honestly, I hate seeing shoddily-painted armies just as much as I hate seeing blank ones. I can't tell you how many times I've shown up to a store only to find that every army there looks like a child painted it. Please, gray plastic is so much simpler and cleaner than you slopping paint over it like a drooling idiot just so you can say that you did it. Good for you, it still looks like garbage.
Nobody paints up their Risk figures (ok, I actually did, but I also use mine for a scale wargame) or the chits for their other strategy games. For some people, the models are just a game piece, a representation of a unit. Why paint them then? Yeah, two armies fighting across a finished tabletop with well painted and evocative terrain can look absolutely incredible. Alternatively, if you're playing on folding tables using Lego-bricks to make all of your terrain, it looks bad no matter how well painted the armies are.
Different strokes man. I can see that you're a pretty solid painter, so none of this is attacking you or anyone else in particular, it's just my thoughts. I've seen people who spend hours and hours painting minis, and I wish they'd spend hours and hours online reading about how to play the game so that I don't feel like I've wasted 2 hours stomping their gorgeous army into the table after a game.
I work i i go to the gym 5 times a week i play mmorpgs i have a girl friend and i go drinking on the week ends all of my models are painted and 60% heavily converted.
if you "cant paint" atleast base coat 4 primary coulors wash them in badab black and stick some grass on the base.
I wont play against a tide of grey 1 or 2 squads its fine or half painted squads are also good but thats me.
If your buying the models for plain representation play chess or risk you will save $$$$$$
i bite like hell about this subject as you can see.
How many models are we talking about though? Yeah, my GKs are all painted so far, all converted, and all look much better than table standard. But there are only about 30 models in the entire army. When you're playing Fantasy and even an "Elite" army runs around 100 models strong, it become a little harder to hold everyone to that standard.
I love watching Nid and Ork players (the 40k "horde guys") whining about having to paint up their armies. In Fantasy, the Skaven and Goblin players are easily fielding 200+ models.
As for the idea of "If you want to use them as simple markers, play Chess"? If you want to have beautifully painted models, stop messing around with fantasy and scifi and start building museum dioramas or model-train layouts.
This is one of those topics that people are going to feel very differently about. Some people play the game for the fluff and therefore they field armies that make sense in the scope of the game - then they start hating on the people who build competitive armies for tournament games. Some people play the game because they like the way the models look - they turn around and start nagging the people who don't paint their models and play with optimized collections.
At the end of the day, you get out of the hobby what you put into it. If you go 3-for-3 with hobbying, gaming, and fluff, good for you, you're certainly an awesome person. But you can't expect everyone to do that, or force that kind of outlook onto other people. If you want to deny me a game because some of my army is unpainted, I'm fine with that, I'll play against someone else. You're only limiting your own game options.
OR you can fulfill the aesthetic goal the taboo way and use a painting service. I know I'm partially missing the point here, but for those of us with jobs and spouses that take up 95% of our time, there are painting services out there that will sell you models at -20%, assemble them, and paint them up well for a modest fee.
It usually ends up being about 10-20% more expensive than just buying them from a GW store, but they arrive assembled and painted to your specifications, and if I might, probably better executed than 90/100 people could accomplish themselves.
That's how I put a well painted army on the table; because my shaky hands and molecular free time certainly didn't pull it off.
"They have us surrounded? Good! Now we can fire in every direction; those bastards won't get away this time!"
I have no problem playing against unpainted or even proxied armies. One fellow at a tournament at the local FLGS had carboard bases for nearly his entire Skaven (Hey, I know the Screaming Bell is expensive) Did not really mind it at all - I prefer to play a painted army, but I only really have the pressure on myself - no one else.
Last edited by MDSW; February 19th, 2012 at 03:29.