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The magazine has got better.
The magazine has stayed the same.
The magazine has got worse.
Don't read White Dwarf.
Hope this is the right place to post this thread, but I just wondered whether people who read the magazine think that it has gone slightly downhill, such as myself. Main reasons for this, 2 page battle reports, little or no talk about the design phase i.e. such as with the Empire, and in April's issue they had sooooo much about the paints and sooooo many examples.
Last edited by forthebloodgod; April 2nd, 2012 at 09:14.
Picked up my first White Dwarf 21 years back - contained a battle report, four painting guides, a scratch vehicle modelling guide with rule datasheets, a short story, a rules FAQ, and the entire ruleset for Ork freebooterz.
The most recent WD I picked up (381) - one and a half battle reports, half an army list, some minimal hobby stuff, a small LOTR article, and a fairly large chunk of Ogre kingdoms stuff.
Overall, despite the more recent WD being several dozen more pages longer it didn't have as much 'content'. The battle reports (notably Cruddace's) were vague, the new rules (notably Cruddace's) seemed shallow and rushed, the reading material wasn't of the same quality and the hobby sections of the two magazines don't compare at all - and 381 was a good magazine by recent standards.
That last one is one of the reasons why I stopped picking the magazine up years back - a gradual slide away from hobby content towards a glorified multi-page advert.
Of course i'm biased, I picked up the magazine to get the first update to my list in 8 years and instead got codex: crap marines. But if I dug out the old magazine I think i'd take the time to thumb through the story, the articles, or the battle report - something I couldn't say of 381.
I am keen to read more opinions on this,i myself have never purchused any of those.My only contact with Gws reading material was by a special LOTR release a couple ages back,by a company called Deagostini (a Greek or Cypriotic company if i remember right) which in the package had LOTR minis,paints and brushes(i still have said paints and brushes) and a ten to twenty mag with guides on how to build paint and create scenery guides.I think those must have come from WD because it was obvious they were translated and the guides bore striking resemblance to Gws articles.
For 10 euros a price and the minis it was well worth the price i must say.
Praise be to the Emperor!!
I think it's gotten worse, though I've only been playing for nearly 6 years. Like A.T., one of the most exciting prospects of White Dwarf turned to disappointment as soon as I saw the new SoB rules. Then I got the ones with The Fantasy Civil War rules for my Dark Elves but even those rules had rules that required you to buy more terrain if you didn't have it already. There was talk of WD going back to less adverts, but from what I've heard of the most recent one, it's just paint article after paint article. Same as the websites spotlights for the last week were paint related.
Suppose it's not really relevant, since I've only ever picked up a single WD (the necron release one), but I thought it was worth the $8 or whatever I paid for it. Sure, I could probably rip out half the pages of the magazine and not even notice, though some of that has to do with things that are GW worthy, but of no interest to me personally. Afterall, I don't expect everybody who's a fan of 40k to be a fan of LotR, but I believe they have an equal right to articles in the magazine. The adverts didn't strike me as out of the norm for a modern day magazine, and there were a few things I liked about it, like the differing paint schemes for different necron tomb worlds. For a money:entertainment ratio, it was worth it, since I got my $8 in hours of entertainment reading it.
Now, I have no inclination to buy another WD ... well, ever. The only thing that hooked me on that one was they were releasing a faction I was very interested in. Sure, it could probably be best described as one huge advert for that faction, and I was the perfect target demographic for that issue, being the frothing fanboy that I am of the mechanical undead. Unfortunately, no other faction really calls to me in the same fashion, so any other issue will really just fall on deaf ears.
I'd have to look closer at some older WD's. Because it's one thing when they're released and fresh and you have nothing to compare them to (no internet tutorials, for example), but now when I look at them they just appear a bit dated. I would be curious to see how a modern WD would appear, if it was created with the old design philosophy.
Praise be to the Emperor!!
As for when I think the quality has gone down, I was thinking about within the last year or so, however it would be interesting to hear from some of the people out there who have been reading White Dwarf for a long time and what they think.
As for "What's New Today", I agree that it has got worse, to me it seems more like an advert and less of a hobby article. And you have to click to read the rest of the article. What I don't get is why in this April's WD they only had one battle report that was 1000pts that was 2-3 pages long and about last months releases, when they had the chance to do an amzing battle report with all of the Empire releases. Finally there was hardly anything actually about the Empire in it, they talked a bit about the units and that was it, which is a shame considering that was one of the reasons I was looking forward to it.
Eh, I am disappointed with the current White Dwarf compared to the ones that I Still look through from the 275 to 310 range of issues. I have no desire to buy another one. It is a simple thing for me. If Games Workshop want my money, make more gaming and fluff content and longer and better battle reports and interesting spin off rules to use during a game. (Vehicle design rules any one?)
If Games Workshop does not want my money they can continue with the crap fest that is White Dwarf. I can see your models for sale just fine on your free website.
Army's used: Space Wolves, Tomb Kings, High Elves, Tyranids, Tau and Eldar.
White Dwarf is a terrible magazine, has been for at least the last fifteen years. In fact, as A.T. said, it isn't a magazine at all, it's just a £4.50 a month miniatures catalogue. There's very little in the way of articles, most of the mag is taken up with photos of their new releases. The battle reports are nothing but a showcase of their most recently release armies.
<Begin old timer rant>
I remember when I first bought WD, back in the mid 90s, sure it had a little bit at the front with some new stuff they'd released, plus news of what was going on in stores and whatnot. But most of the magazine was brilliantly written (and often humourous) random hobby articles, rules for new units or even entire games (Mordheim anyone?), scenarios for battles, free minigames (Bar Room Brawl!) terrain building stuff (proper scratch building terrain, not "here's our latest terrain releases"), and best of all, battle reports for the sake of a good battle reports! Nothing to do with newest army, just a report on a nice exciting game two of the guys in the studio had played.
More than anything I wish WD would somehow get back to those days, recapture some of the magic of our hobby. But I can't see it ever happening. I used to have a subscription to WD, but I cancelled it long ago, after realising that I wasn't really interested in virtually anything in the mag. Now I only buy it if there's something specific that I want to read about (like the major Necron releases). Although even then I was disappointed! Especially with this month's mag, but hey, I should have known what to expect.
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Normally I'd be inclined to agree that the magazine has gotten worse, but the models, the painting schemes, selection of paints and tools, as well as the evolution of painting techniques has come so far, plus when there is a feature of a new army like necrons, they have enough stuff to fill an entire white dwarf and have some really good inspirational armies. I'm okay with WD where it is now, but since there has been a huge influx of fantasy lately I haven't bought it in a while.