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Why does GW sell some troops just a few short to make a full squad? for example, a kroot squad can have a total of 20 in all, but the kroot box only has 16! is this like a sales tactic or somthing?
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People rarely use full squads, instead using squads that are around half to 3/4 the maximum size. With this kind of squad selection, you have more flexibility.
I think it's a marketing strategy for sure. Especially if you look at the blister packs as well.
Example that really annoys me: Death Cult Assassins. They come in groups of 1-3, and most people are going to use either 1 to fill up some points or 3 coz they are cheap and good. But the blister has 2!
This means you either buy one blister and have one less than a full squad, or buy two blisters and have a spare you can't use, that you are paying for. They should come in 1s or 3s.
And boxes, they are just as bad. The kroot you mentioned above, correct me if I'm wrong but a kindred of carnivores is minimum 10 right? Same with Ork slugga or shoota boyz, who also come in boxes of 16.
The logical thing to do would be to make boxes of 20, that way you could either make 2 minimum squads, (incidentally filling up your basic troops choices with one handy box) or make 1 maximum squad. Instead you get 16, which allows you to make 1 minimum squad or some bastardized 3/4 squad. Or you can buy two and have a maximum squad and guys left over (that YOU paid for). If you want to make up your two troops choices you need two boxes and you don't even get two full-size squads. For that you need 3 boxes! Just for the extra 8 guys!
And it is mainly SM players who don't use full-size squad. Some armies, like Orks, rely on them tactically.
Anyone who thinks it's coz of tactical flexibility needs to wake up coz it's all about awkward numbers to force you to pay for guys you don't need.
I'm with Lt. Dan. As an Ork player this is one of those things that really anoys me.
I would have to agree that that is very irritating. I play Space Marines so I don't really have to worry, full squad in every box () but I'm sure other armies have this problem. 16 or 12 isn't a really good number. They're trying to get you to waste money to fill up a squad. AAAARGH!
You could always buy blisters from the plastic sets on the internet, so you could buy the box set of kroot, then buy the parts on the net to fill up what you're missing in the box.
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Most annoying box size has to be the skinks. Maz size is 25, in a box u get 24 :o If you want a full squad you get an extra 23 skins left over.
In Fantasy it is less of an issue however as you can have as many as you like. But it does annoy me how the best size for Chaos Warriors is 16 or so. You get 12 in a box. Best Marauders size (depending on role) 25, get 16 in a box <_<
Gaurdsmen have it easy though. Max 10, Min 10.
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Also, in the Bretonnians you get 8 per box of knights, but lance formation depends on the units being in increments of 3!
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But they consider the fact that you are going to put a character in the unit, which most of us do, and that gives a nice number of 9.
I think fantasy ones are the worst of, as someone mentioned chaos warriors are wanted in units of 16 but you get 12. High Elf spearmen are definitely wanted in units of 20 but you only get 16, archers on the other hand will never be taken in 16. 10 is what most people use, so a multiple of that would be nice.
I think there should be a standard for unit boxes of 20, for regiment boxes at least since that is the number most people will go for when making core units.
yeh it is pretty cheap. id have to say ig and space marines get the perfect amounts in their boxes. id say beastmen ones are gay they should split them into two seperate boxes because most people put gors and ungors by themselves
As much as I'm sure GW is trying to screw us over whenever possible, remember that there is also the issue of the design of the sprue. The moulds are probably being designed at least a year before the model is on the store shelves, which I'd expect to be way earlier than the codex is released. Its entirely possible that the people who design the sprues don't know what the squad sizes will be.