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Apologies if this is the wrong furom (but I couldn't see another it fitted into better).
I've so far enjoyed reading the various backgrounds in the codex's I bought as well as the 13th Black Crusade BG book and Horus Heresey vol's 1 & 2 and now I'm looking to read a BL 40K Novel.
I'm a Dark Angels player but have an interest in most of the races and was wondering if anyone had a recommendation for a novel to start with?
I'm a fan of Tom Clancy's books and read a lot of non-fiction (popular science and history) - will I enjoy the writing style of the Black Library novels? (I enjoy there 'factual' style ones).
As I said I'm a DA player and have seen one called Angel of Darkness which seems to give some more background to the chapter - is this any good? (also one called Deathwing but that's a collection of shorts - again, any good?)
One thing that does concern me is that Marines have a breed in superiority to their personalities and I worry that it will make their characters in fiction hard to 'relate' to or even 'grow fond' of as you would the main characters in a, say, Clancy novel. (I know that sounds really girly but I can't think of a better way of putting it!)
If any one has any recommendations I'd be glad to hear from them.
Thanks in advance
I haven't read Angel of Darkness but I have read a good handfull of the novels. My personal favorites so far are the Inquisitor Eisenhorn trilogy by Dan Abnett. First book is Xenos, 2nd is Malleus, third is Hereticus. They are surprisingly really good.
Lately I have been reading the Soul Drinker books by Ben Counter. I am into the 3rd one but the the first too are good aside from some continuity problems and spelling!
I have also enjoyed Execution Hour by Remy.
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I grew really bored of Tom Clancy books. The only one I really enjoyed was Rainbow Six, and Clear and Present Danger.
Though the Bear and the Dragon was good too, it was highly polictical. *shrugs* I still have them, since I keep all my books for reading later. But I'll be picking out TC books in years to come thinking "Dude, I've had this for like a gazillion year and still not read it."
But yea, as for BL books. The Space Wolf ones are really good and enjoyable IMO
As are the Gaunts Ghosts books. The 9th I beleive is a hard back book, so its a tad more costly. But all of the GG books are class also.
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Angels of Darkness by Gav Thorpe was the very first Black Library novel I ever read, and it was what got me hooked on 40k in general. Itâ€™s definitely a book worth reading if youâ€™re interested in Dark Angels and their background fluff, though certain parts of it might come as somewhat of a surprise to you (to my knowledge, no Black Library novel has ever been the cause of more furore and flame wars on online Warhammer forums). In my opinion, the book is excellent, and raises some very interesting questions about the Dark Angels Chapter and their Primarch. However, as you have already pointed out, the characters in the book, being Space Marines, can be somewhat difficult to relate to â€“ at least I felt that way; the only person I really liked was the villain. Still, the book is a good read, especially if youâ€™re interested in 40k fluff, and I would definitely recommend it.
The anthology Deathwing is also quite good in my opinion. The short story that gave name to the anthology does indeed have Dark Angel characters, and includes a bit of interesting fluff, although I find that it is not close enough to mainstream fluff to be an entirely reliable source of information. The short story Unforgiven by Graham McNeill, also included in this anthology, gives a more precise picture of the Dark Angels in my opinion, although it is fairly standard when it comes to the storyline and characters. Still, if Dark Angels fluff is what you want, you canâ€™t really get around these two short stories, and there are also other good stories to be found in Deathwing.
As for other books, I would go for anything by Dan Abnett. So far I have enjoyed everything Iâ€™ve read by him, but the Eisenhorn trilogy stands apart as being of an unusually high quality. If you want fluff and factuality, this trilogy wonâ€™t let you down. His Gauntâ€™s Ghosts series is also excellent and definitely worth the time itâ€™ll take to read it â€“ which usually isnâ€™t very long, judging from personal experience and what Iâ€™ve heard from others. None of these books are about Space Marines, though; for that, I would try the Uriel Ventris series by Graham McNeill, who actually manages to create a Space Marine character that one can relate to. He has also written the novel Storm of Iron about the Iron Warriors Legion, another favourite books of mine. And if youâ€™re interested in Chaos, you mustnâ€™t miss the chance to read Lord of the Night by Simon Spurrier, my all-time favourite book from my all-time favourite 40k author. Other books worth mentioning are the Ciaphas Cain series by Sandy Mitchell, the Soul Drinkers series by Ben Counter as already mentioned by Slorak, and the Shira Calpurnia books by Matthew Farrer, to name just a few...
I think Iâ€™ll stop this post now, though, or Iâ€™m just going to ramble on and on about Black Library books. If you have questions about any of the books Iâ€™ve mentioned (or any other 40k book for that matter), donâ€™t hesitate to tell me; I love to share my knowledge of fluff and its sources with anyone willing to listen to my obsessed ramblings. :p
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Thanks everyone for the info!
Toastee - Yeah, I agree about Clancy's recent books been too polical but his earlier ones - Rainbow Six, Debt of Honor and by far the best Sum of All Fears (don't let the film put you off - the Song from Team America was so right about Affleck) are great books.
Grephaun: Thanks from the feedback. Ramble away - it's just what I was looking for. I think'll I'll try the Angels of Darkness but you've also made me want to read Double Eagle (the one with the Imp Navy Thunderbolt on the cover) by Dan Abbnet - I like the sound of the story line and everyone, like yourself seems to say great things about Abbnet.
I think I'll also look at the Eisenhorn books after those two again because everyone rates them. Do you read many BL books - are there any stinkers to watch out for?
Do you find the fluff in these novels adds to 40K? I'm am seriously becoming a 'fluff buff'(TM), so the novels will really add to may enjoyment of the hobby (I hope).
Do you have the BL BG book - Amaggedon (sp)? I really fancy that one but it is out of stock - As I said I enjoyed the 13th Black Crusade BG book. The Infantry Mans Uplifting Primer is also good to as it's only Â£6 now! I'm also looking to get the Liber Chaotica collected (which incidentally appeared for pre-order today).
I guess the thing I like about this hobby is that you can really get a lot of depth from it and I such a information freak!
Just noticed that the Black Library has a 'when it's gone it's gone' sale on and Angels of Darkness is there as well as a few others we've talked about- better get buying hadn't I!
I've just ordered Angels of Darkness, Storm of Iron, Crusade for Armageddon & Execution Hour (I like the back story to Battle Fleet Gothic). They were only Â£3 each!
Hope I've picked some good ones - feel free to tell me what a mistake I've made though!
The Black Library is a must read for 40k fanatics....theres just so much fluff that those books give that make the game so much more fun and interesting.
That said, I have to agree with Grephaun on recommendations for books.
Angels of Darkness was the first BL book I read as well, mostly cause a friend recommended it, and I love SciFi in the first place. I read it primarily to learn more about my chapter's rivals (I run SW's), but I ended up fascinated with the Dark Angels. If youre a Dark Angels player it is an absolute MUST READ! The whole book raises alot of questions about the chapter.....the writing style is a bit disconcerting, but well-written and really eerie. It questions every bit of knowledge you thought you knew about the Dark Angels.
Storm of Iron was great as well. Great insight into the armies of chaos, and for once the good guys weren't the space marines. Always nice to see that, although space marines do rock.
Any book by Dan Abnett is absolutely masterful. The Gaunt's Ghosts books focus on the Tanith First and Only, and have excellent in depth character development as well as background fluff about some of the current crusades. His Eisenhorn series is also really cool.
Grey Knights is another awesome book. Im pretty sure it was written by Ben Counter, the same guy who wrote the Soul Drinkers series. The details about the mysterious Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus are fascinating and there are some absolutely bloodchilling scenes in this book. Another absolute must read.
The only BL book I didnt really like was the novelization of Fire Warrior. Although it had a great deal of fluff about the Tau Empire, and the psychology of the Tau, I have always felt that some of the stuff the protaganist does in the book were a bit unrealistic. For example....a single fire warrior taking on and killing 3 space marines? I think not.
Oh, if you can get a hand on them (which might be hard), read all four of the Liber Chaotica books. Each is devoted to one of the Gods of Chaos, and are TOTALLY interesting reads. They arnt exactly 40k books, but Chaos is the same from warhammer to 40k, and the relations in the books, as well as some of the things that are said seem to lend credence to the theory that the fantasy world maybe a world in a calm section of the eye of terror.
As an eldar player I'm biased, but if you are interested in learning a lot more about their history read Farseer, it's one of the best BL books i've read.
Sounds fairly cut and dry to me.
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