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Just today I played a game of both Fantasy and 40k. Next to eachother, Fantasy seems like a much better game.
I'm just wondering why 40k has such a huge following while Fantasy gets left in the dust for being just a little more complex?
That's because GW pushes their 40k audience a lot more. It just makes more money, and so they come out with more stuff for it that keeps interest better. It's about money, plain and simple.
And for anyone wishing to turn this into a 40k vs fantasy "That game sucks, you suck" sort of thing, don't. Just have to get that out just in case.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, even if it's wrong.
Hard to say but I think it has something to do with the realtive popularity of the settings. While each genre has it's hard core fans, there are far more people who don't mind science fiction.
Fantasy on the other hand is alot more of a niche market. People can identify much better with characters in settings similar to our world (scifi) as opposed to a pseudo medieval/mythical setting. Even people who are not "scif nerds" can often enjoy star wars and star trek for example.
Fantasy (not just warhammer, but as a whoie) only seems to appeal to a small amount of people, whereas nearly everyone will go see a scifi blockbuster when it comes out. Aliens and guns and AIs are alot more familiar to most people than elves and dwarves and dragons which, to be frank, most people think of as quite nerdy.
I guess what I'm saying is in the mind of the average person (if there is such a place), science fiction is alot "cooler" than fantasy.
Last edited by Kahoolin; May 7th, 2005 at 09:48. Reason: spelling
Doesn't seem nerdy to me; today's game was Ogres vs. Lizzies which I have never, ever heard of before. Regardless, the only races that strike me as cliche' are Elves and Dwarves.
Yeah but you already play warhammer. Imagine you never have.Originally Posted by Kroxigaunt
Most people are going to be naturally more attracted to slick technology and a gothic future setting than they are to a bunch of guys in tights sword fighting with axe wielding chaos warriors. It's just the way people are nowadays. I mean if we were in the 70's or 80's fantasy would probably be more popular than 40k. In fact back then it was.
It's a fashion in ALL of society that affects warhammer, not just a fashion among warhammer players. People like science fiction more than fantasy.
I'm trying to look at it unbiased, as both a player of Warhammer and the general public. I guess you're right, though. I can remember in the mid 90s downwards Sci-Fi was the nerdy thing.
what i don't get is at my club more people play fantasy regulary than 40k. also i think 40k is popular with younger kids because we relate to it more. and veterans might play fantasy because they were around at the time of d&D.
i also must admit that fantasy looks alot more complicated than 40k in rules terms. and i am seriously thinking about starting woodelves when the army book comes out. i just love the idea of ranked soldiers running in a straight line at each other.
Take it from a Fantasy player; the complexity is a good thing.
Also, there's a lot more than running in a straight line, as I learned quite fast from my first game with Lizzies today. Poor, poor Kroxigors. :mellow:
While both are awesome, I'd have to agree with the general public. I am slightly bias (being a WH40k player myself), but really, they are the exact same thing, just in different times. WH40k has the warp instead of magic, (I think) the lizardmen are kinda the tyranid equivilents, the empire=the imperium, eldar are just space elves, dark eldar are dark space elves, orcs=orcs (duh). No dawrves in WH40k, but the Chaos for both types worship THE SAME GODS. I could really go on with this all day long, but the general statment here is that it's basicly a choice between past and future. I play 40k because that's the one my friends play, but if my friends played WHFB, I'd play that instead.
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Warhammer 40k V Fantasy? 40k would win easily, elves are no match for bolters!
(Yes, I'm kidding!)
Yeah the popularity aspect of the respective genres seems to drive the demand for each of the games so GW naturally market the better selling product more.