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Hey I just had an idea from reading a thread where ze_poodle said GW fluff used to say the Emperor was descended from Jesus.
This got me thinking about all the wierd and wacky things GW has quietly dropped from their games and/or fluff.
So I am inviting all the older members to reminisce on the strange days, and tell us all the bizarre things GW was responsible for.
I'll start it off with the not so obvious. When I started playing way back when I was a kid, I had a squadron of squat pirates who rode "powerboards" (essentially hoverboards a la Back to the Future) which I had cut from stryrofoam. No, I am not a freak (well maybe), I got the idea from the Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader rulebook. My stupid bandanna wearing space dwarfs were equipped with everything from bolters to shuriken cannons coz back then any race could buy any weapon.
The other thing I remember were my friend's Ork Stormboyz. The fluff said they were young Orks who loved discipline and for some reason looked like German soldiers from WWII. They had the wermacht helmets and uniforms and everything and marched in ranks.
Now they are nutters with big arse firecrackers strapped to their backs. I wonder when exactly this change took place?
So go for it vets. Share the legends...
Not to go off topic. But I read that the emperor came into being because the shamans that remained sacrificed themselves so that they would have the emperor reincarnated as them. And have eternal life ect.
Back to your topoc. I'm no veteran, but I have heard some stuff about how Space Wolves were first squats, and that if you talk about squats on the GW boards you get your account locked and stuff. Which seems weird lol.
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Dude, our avatars are eerily similar... :huh:
One GREAT change in the 40k fluff is the structure of the Inquisition. You want to see an interesting change, read the Inquisition War trilogy by Ian Watson. As far as i can tell the original way that the Inquisition was structured was that the basis level of the Inquisition was journeyman inquisitors who hunted out xenos influence and heretics. Then the Ordo Malleus was an overarching ordo, with their hidden masters. The regular inquisitors were bound to obey any inquisitor of the Malleus, as Malleus inquisitors were considered to be their superiors. Much different from the modern form of the Inquisition with its three seperate yet equal Ordos.
Woah that is freaky lol, I've had this pic sitting in my picture folder for awhile and decided to switch out my avatar. But still pretty weird lol.
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yeah the Ork stormboys were odd...i had a load in my old epic army, just a load of little germans basically!
Oh and in the old Warhammer Siege rules (dates back to 3rd edition WHFB and rogue trader) there is a big section on space marines attacking primitive world and laying siege to basically WHFB armies- mismatch at all? might settle the warhammer- 40k debate though...
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Well, I remember a long time back Michael Jackson had an accident and burned his hair whilst making a Pepsi commercial.Originally Posted by robotnik
GW later released a figure with flames coming from it's head, I think they called it something like Mikael Jaksen.
This isn't the only figure GW has based on a living person.... There was also a female Necromunda figure (Esher Gang?) called Mad Donna.
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Hmm...Originally Posted by wolfkin
Reminds me of Sly Marbo. Sylvester Stallone with integrated Marlboro commercial. Maybe we can sue them for that? Advertising cigarettes to children?
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--- Well, on the topic of outdated fluff... This is a prime example! =)Originally Posted by Sir Theobold the Lame
At one time, the WHFB world was a planet in the 40K Universe. Not sure of the edition (RT? 2nd? Thinking in terms of 40K editions, since I'm not that familiar with F, but back then Your WHFB Chaos bigguy could have a Bolter as a weapon...
Nowadays, no official connection exists AFAIK and FB and 40K are completely different realms, despite some players concocting theories of the WHFB planet being stranded somewhere in the middle of a warp storm... Could be, but GW has IIRC officially dismissed that notion... Probably something to do with wanting to develop the two into clearly separate games and universes.
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Yes, the Inquisition War trilogy is a good place to get a feel of the â€˜oldâ€™ 40k, both when it comes to the Inquisition and other Imperial authorities, and also the nature of Squats, who were later all eaten by Tyranids. Another source is the Rogue Trader rulebook, which also includes descriptions and information that now seem strange or even ridiculous. Back then, the Inquisition was a very loose organisation with no central command structure or authority. There were no Ordos, and all Inquisitors shared the same rank, except for the Master of the Inquisition who was said to work directly with the Emperor Himself (!), reporting on the Inquisitionâ€™s mission to the Emperor and communicating the Emperorâ€™s commands to Inquisitors throughout the Imperium.Originally Posted by Lord_WallaceAs Uzi-99 has already stated, the two Warhammer games were actually said to take place in the same universe at first, though I believe that it was changed in the second edition rules. However, it isnâ€™t uncommon for Space Marines to come across and do battle with primitive peoples; after all, many lost civilisations have devolved to a less technological level since the Dark Age of Technology, and now exist in societies reminiscent of anything from Stone Age and Viking cultures to Medieval and Renaissance types of societies. In the Black Library Novel â€˜Grey Knightsâ€™ by Ben Counter, a group of Grey Knights actually finds itself at the business end of a cavalry charge.Originally Posted by Sir Theobold the LameI suppose it makes sense for Games Workshop to want to separate the two games. After all, that means the players will need two different armies if they want to play both games, instead of using a 40k army against a fantasy army. Itâ€™s a sound marketing strategy.Originally Posted by Uzi-99
As for other cases of outdated fluff, I will once again point to the good old days of Rogue Trader, where the Horus Heresy had not taken place, there were no Primarchs, and Space Marines were basically ordinary thugs given bio-chem treatments and a black plastic carapace for looks. Back then, Tyranids were also quite civilised creatures who just wanted everyone to be happy and unite all species in the galaxy in a Borg-like community that would wipe out the Chaos powers (or at least thatâ€™s what they said!)
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