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I went to my local gaming club yesterday, nothing new there. BUT!
No-one would play me!
Really! Its not that I'm a pain to play(Meta-gaming or min/maxing) or a bad sport, it's that I win alot. The only guys there that can beat me were playing M.T.G., leaving ony the <18's playing 40K.
I stayed for a bit and played some magic. Got the story from one of the older guys, I just have a habit of winning and winning by a big margin. I know I'm a lot older than GW's target demographic (27). I've played 40K scince I was 15.
Should I throw the occasional game? Just so I can get a game?
Where are all the older players? When I was 21 on a friday night my gaming mates would rent a full size billiard table at the local snooker hall and drink, smoke and play all night. Some of us even picked up in the course of a game!
Wow, you actually picked up in the course of a game?!?!? That's some serious dice rolling, (and THAT made no sense). Anyways, have you tried one of dem dere online oponent finder things? If that fails, I would try some of the clubs listed in White Dwarf. I've never tried the online thing, but I know the Dwarf has some solid listings. I'm 31, my buddy that introduced me to his club is ancient, (I think he's 34), and the avg. age at the club last I checked was mid to late 30's. As to the are you to good, doubt it, I think it might be a maturity thing with your oponents. My minotaurs used to get the crap kicked out them by almost every other team in the league and we had a great time, win or lose, (except my one buddy who was a bit of a whiner, didn't like playing him that much). Hope this helps.
Couter rant over
Well this can be a problem to children or adolescents, as they atke the game too serious and always aim for the wins and cannot conseive a loss. I was like that 2 years ago, and was 16, so give them some time to pick up maturity and you'll do fine.
Or start an army that will loose mosts of it's until you master them and start winning, like kroot mercenaries or ultwÃ©
I just got back from playing and losing to someone who's been playing since he was 11, and he's now 32. So that's 21 years he's been playing. He played before it was released in America, his friends in the UK ordered him his stuff. But I had fun anyways and just accepted it as a morale victory considering how close it was. And I learned some things like I do every game.
I personally don't think you should start throwing games, they can just get used to losing because everyone loses. The game is about fun so hopefully your local <18 gamers can just have fun and be :cool: .
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There's a guy like your at our club. Always winning, and by a lot. But it seems everyone wants to play him instead of the other way around. If those kids don't want to play you that's a bit of a shame, but it's their loss. You always learn a lot when playing someone far better. Unless you're really stubborn about actually winning. Then I don't see why you'd want to play them in the end, except that they're the only guys you can play. Playing someone who really wants to win is rarely fun.
I give a lot of advice during games, all of it good. "No don't charge the gene stealers, fall back to cover, shoot and wait for me. I didn't buy flesh hooks so you'll strike first."
I've even tried setting up and before first turn suggesting we swap armys and I'll coach them on how to beat me.
I (Thats a lot of "I"s) teach game mechanics, tactics, stratagy the whole lot.
The Opponent Search thing I've tried, but theres not much in Oz.
On picking up while playing, some ladys like a celeberal guy. Also wargaming is a non-threatening hobby. Unlike going out and gettin' maggoted.
Oh well, maybe I can convince my partner to learn.... Ooops, she can't play chess yet so that comes first.
Thanks for your replys.
I don't think that being to good is a problem. As there are ways to beat anyone, just learn there weaknesses and exploit them. My advice is kinda similar to Wolf_Pack's, give them time, or try another army you're crap at, so they have a chance, and while you learn, so do they. I used to win almost all the time, so I changed armies and tactics, still did ok, but other people had a good time as well. Good luck to you, and I hope you get to play some decent games,
i remember the path to glory campaign that was out 2 years ago, no matter what I did I couldn't lose.
I intentionally tried to throw games and still won by landslides, perfect example- I exposed a beastman with a throwing axe to the enemy khorne lord and he whipped the axe out for his stand and shoot attack, critical hit, 1 on the save, 1 point beatman kills uberkhorne champion of killeverything with a single ineptly flung hatchet to the groin on turn 2... everyone was thankfully very good humored about the god of sex, drugs, & rock & roll blessing my dice for that campaign, the day it ended my luck went back to mediocrity, it was great fun while it lasted though...
and on picking up girls with gaming.. I didn't pick up anyone playing but my girlfriend has fallen in love with space marines since we started dating... now she's moved in with me and has me painting her armies for her, I'm scared to introduce her to more gamers since she'll probably lose interest in the hobby if she meets the sort of people that generally play.. i dunno about everywhere else in the world but here in the states attractive women and gamers are traditionally antipodes that almost never mix... :lol:
Well, if you've been playing for over a decade, I imagine you would get a feel for the game that instinctively tells you what to do when. You have to do something; I wouldn't recommend waiting for other players to "come up to your level". Because you can't expect them to get as good as you need them to be, you'll have to take the alternate route and challenge yourself more.
I would say that you should never throw a game, because that insults both you and your opponent (and if anyone ever catches on, they will probably have an even harder time playing you). Challenge yourself by choosing army lists that are unusual and difficult to win with. Play scenarios that put you at a disadvantage. The best way would be to start an army that is very difficult to win with, and for 40k that would probably be Orks, Dark Eldar, or something else like a pure Daemonhunters/strictly Grey Knight force.
If that option is not in the cards due to holes in your pocket or having no desire to start a new army, then just sit down and come up with ways you can really challenge yourself with your current armies (allow your opponent more points than you....play 2 vs. 1, or 3 vs. 2, etc.). Just make sure you never belittle your opponents. If you have the air about you that you need a handicap just to make the game fair, that too will insult whoever you're playing. If they ask why you want a slight disadvantage, just say you've been playing for so long and really want to challenge yourself so you can learn new things about the game. Either way, I'd say you're not challenging yourself enough, and if you found new ways to do that, your present and irritating invincibility might vacate.
And of course, in the meantime, jump at any chance you get to play games with other players whom you know to be at "your level".
One more idea, but this might be too much: offer a small monetary reward to anyone who can beat you. That has the risk of sounding pompous and arrogant, but just be honest about your predicament and say you have a hard time losing. After your opponent laughs in your face and mocks you, tell him that seriously you just want to face a real challenge and again tell him that if he wins, you'll give him $5 or $10. Of course, this all depends on how important losing is to you...and its at this point that the ridiculousness of your problem comes to light...
J/K...good luck overcoming your "handicap" of winning all the time.
Last edited by Houston; May 18th, 2005 at 06:06.