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I already know I'm cracked, so no need to point that out, but I wanted to bring up an interesting little aspect of our beloved wargames. A player of an army is very much the army's general, and although these armies are just made up of little metal and plastic bits, it seems to be very easy to become attached to them or even protective of them. Afterall, no decent General wants to see unnecessary harm come to his or her soldiers.
Now admittedly I am heavily into the fluff of both Warhammer 40k and WFB, so maybe I take a more literal (and obsessive) approach to being my army's General, but I really hate to lose scores of my heroic troops, to which I have become attached to. Having scores of my Eldar, some of which even have names, get butchered occasionally depresses the hell out of me. Its as though I feel like I fail the men and women under my command.
Now, this is slightly tongue in cheek, but does anyone else experience something similar? Or do most players just try to win the game, no matter the cost, giving as much thought to losing a squad as they would to expending gaming pieces in a game of chess? Afterall, losing your entire army is alright so long as you win, right? But I find myself thinking in terms of fluff, picturing my army general having to inform the families of the fallen that their relatives won't be returning from the battlefield, or I imagine having to start at square one and having to replenish the ranks with fresh reinforcements (who just get chewed up in the next battle). It sucks.
I so dislike losing my characterful troops that I have taken up Tyranids as my second 40k army, because I don't care if all my Gaunts and Genestealers and Carnifexes die. And I'm looking at Orks for my third army for the same reason, because it doesn't matter if they all die. But when fielding an army full of individuals with (imagined) families and names and lives, I can't stand it when they are wiped out to a man.
So is this a common feeling amongst players, or do I need to tone down the sentiment? One thing's for sure: I'd never be cut out to be a leader of the IG.
Hmm, this is a very interesting thing. I've never really got emotionally attached to my troops, but I always hate losing them unnecessarily, which is even weirder since I play Chaos. However, it kind of depends on which troops they are, my two Tzeentch champions are very important to me (they are meant to be twins, fluff wise, and are identical models, but with different poses and the patterns on their armour mirror each other ). I always try to make sure that they are protected and aren't put in danger without good reason. I even hate pointlessly losing my spawn (I guess he's sort of the army 'pet' as it were...). But when it comes to the Gors and Ungors in the beastherd, or individual warriors and marauders, well, I'll try my hardest not to waste them, but taking and making casualties is the name of the game.
"Peace, through superior firepower."
Reading through your post reminds me of several times when a particular tank or squad gets killed, it makes me really sad. My first guardsmen were all given names, but then I got tired and moved on not caring so much, but those first 30 guardsmen....well... I can't stand their deaths. Especially one guy private Jenkis, the officers adjutant and famed in the company for his humour and tendency to run, is my most characterful model I own, he's always the last to die. Generally my friends try to spare him as they know that he's important to me so he often survives.
I've just started a imperial fists spacemarine army and the situation is not better there. I have one marine called by my friends "the cute marine" (because he looks really sad, and cute) always remains on the table, and there's also my coward master who always makes sure his retinue gets killed before striking at a weak and lone squad himself.
It's fun the most time and my dice rolling with these guys are really something to behold, In my opinion people how care more about their armies roll better and have more fun, so everyone else who feels the same, keep those tears in and remember this: they're not dead until you forget them!
Yes, I do sometimes heh, may be a bit silly, but then who cares. Your fun and imagenation is the important thing.
But yes, it happens now and then with the Space Marines, it'll happen with the Tau, and with the IG when I buy them.
The Necrons however...well...no..I suppose it won't lol
But yes, I do like to keep stats, as well as the scores and deeds that my more characterful troops and units. I enjoy it, and to me its fun, and just one of those extra benifits of the hobby.
Sure, some people think I'm a little silly for doing it now and then, but then again, they don't have to do it themselves. It doesn't affect their games, so, I tell them to leave me be *shrug*
It is good fun though Because it also gives you hooks and background for short stories on your units.
I have a short story on my Deviant Art about one of my Squads, named "Squad Rav" And I have plans for alot more =^.^=
You know I think that's partially why I chose Orks, I can laugh it off when my boyz get axed coz they love to fight and death is a risk Orks are happy to take. A true warboss laughs at danger and if his boyz die, it's their fault fer bein weedy.
Now humans, I can see how that could be depressing
Take it from a military veteran: it just means you'd make a good leader.Originally Posted by Houston
"The sword that takes life gives life."
you need to find yourself a girl mate
:mad: Dont Make Me Angry! Im Running Out Of Places To Hide The Bodies :mad:
And you need to read the forum rules, mate.Originally Posted by legolas100
Please don't post unless you have some decent to add to the disscussion.
Thats why I always choose evil armies! (Bar my large IG army, but thats different..)
With Skaven, Its all fun and games when a minion dies, one less usurper to worry about sorting out later, one less assasain fee aperaing on your checking account at the end of the month...Get the picture?
I do have models I'm particully attached to though. My Pawleader for The Rippers (Hasn't got a name but he has the 2 handed cudgel in the night runner set and it looks like he is smashing the head of one of his comrades in.) and My Hopelessly Warpstone addicted Grey Seer (Not named yet either, but always munches on the warpstone)
Not really.. it's like a painted chess game.
The king never feels sad if the bishop dies.