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Hey i have played 40K alot and have nearly finished with my daemonhunters, me and friends are starting fantasy now. One friend is going tomb kings, one is high elves, one is chaos, one is already tzeench chaos. Then two other guys have dwarves. Id like a strong army but a custamizable one, i know nothing about fantasy, i was thinking of dark elves or wood elves, they good? or dwarves? i really have no idea and want advice.
Well, all your mates have gone for the more elite armies. So why not take a different route and go for one of the more horde-like armies, like Empire or Orcs & Goblins, or even go the whole hog and go with the Skaven. Plus all 3 very VERY customisable. Like fast-moving, hard hitting armies? Try a Empire knight army, or an O&G Badlands WAAAAAGH! list, or a Clan Moulder army. Like to swamp your enemies with sheer numbers? Empire infantry is cheap and effective, and O&G and Skaven have many troops choices at 2 points apiece! Wanna shoot your enemies down? O&G war machines are dead killy, Clan Skyre weapons are devestating (also to their own troops, but who cares? They're Skaven!), and an Empire gunline is just plain nasty.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Trust me, you won't regret choosing one of these armies. Well, until it comes to painting them
Here's a list of potential Empire armies
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ad.php?t=34665 (Empire Army Selector)
Orcs & Gobbos
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ad.php?t=34040 (O&g Army Selector)
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ad.php?t=34691 (Skaven Army Selector)
Last edited by MadJackMcJack; December 23rd, 2005 at 01:38.
Thanks MadJack, that was really helpfull, and the links are great to. if anyione else has anything to say about other armies, feel free.
Every Fantasy army is very customizable because there are so many options open to them. When I played 40k (not that I'm ripping on it, just pointing out a major difference), I found that most Space Marine armies tended to have roughly the same composition. Most players took similar types and quantities of troops, and characters were usually equipped similarly.
In Fantasy, there are so many options, especially for your characters, that far fewer WFB players ever equip their armies similarly. MadJackMcJack had some great suggestions, all of which I second; those three armies probably have the largest number of different units to choose from than any other army.
If you would like an army that gives you the most character options, then go with Vampire Counts. They offer Wraiths, Necromancers, and Wights, and that's without even getting into the VC bread and butter, which is the 5 Vampire bloodlines. A VC general can take turns fielding each kind of Vampire, and each kind will tend to vastly change the way the army plays. Tons of options. The only downside is they have superficially weak troops and no shooting, but if the idea of a hugely powerful character (that can be tooled up any way you like) leading a shambling, unrelenting horde of corpses sounds like your cup of tea, then go for it. VC are also the only army that can summon new units (zombies and skeletons), and can have more troops than they start off the battle with.
Dwarfs, I hear, can be very fun (and they have their re-release and new models right around the corner), but if I were in your position and two of my friends were already doing Dwarfs, then I would probably want to choose something else.
The two Elven armies you mentioned are awesome (both model wise and tactics wise), but they are elite, surgically-striking armies that have low toughness (3 across the board, even for characters), and high points cost. This translates into a small, fragile force that can be hard to win with. But, if you like tactics, having to outwit your opponent, cunning strategies, and challenging battles, then Elves are the way to go.
Just one more word of advice: you may find that very few players collect Dark Elves because their entire model range, aside from their regular Core Warriors, is metal, which means they are very expensive to collect. A full 2000 point DE army could set you back about $600 or even more (they are definitely elite!). A Wood Elf army of 2000 points has many more plastic options and would be around $400 or so. Either way, since all three Elf armies require lots of strategy and a firm understanding of the game to win, maybe you shouldn't start with any of them and pick something else. Of course, the important part is that you get what you want, so if you really want Elves of some kind, go for it - you'll just have to try a lot harder is all.
When choosing a new army, especially an introductory one for Warhammer, I would advise that you take your time and don't rush it. Check out all the armies in depth at the Games Workshop homepage, and mull around on LO to see what players have to say. And, of course, make sure you really like the model range. Even if you really love the background, theme, or rules for an army, you'll burn out in the middle of it if you don't like the models you're painting.