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Nobody here is a stranger to Games Workshop's extreme lack of some things... such as reading and grammar skills, logical thinking, horrible typing skills, etc. etc.
Well, I'm here to say that, after reading through my new Black Templars codex, I am quite pleased. I have yet to find anything that gives me a second thought about the rules; I haven't noticed any bad typo's; and it seems to me like everything that people would question has already been answered.
Everything is laid out extremely nicely, and I have yet to have anything to complain about (except my lack of ability to make a good list! ).
I just have to say, kudos, Games Workshop. I definitely hope to see this level of quality with the future codex releases.
Anyone else notice anything about Games Workshop making a quality turn around?
You may be right about the improvement in quality of the English and rules in Games Workshop's latest Codex. I hadn't noticed before but now you mention it there were no glaring errors that I spotted.
However, I do have other issues with it. About a third of the background material is repeated word for word from the Space Marine Codex. I find this really frustrating. I know that some aspects of the background must be repeated but it would have been nice to read something that took a different slant on things, perhaps from a different author.
This trend continued into the army list section where many entries were very similar to those in Codex: Space Marines. Of course, there is nothing to complain about here. The Black Templars are Space Marines, after all. However, with so much repeated material in this book is it any wonder that they found the time to proof read it?
Ah... Grammar errors. The worst grammar/typing error I have seen in in the Rulebook, on that picture where they show a huge force of allied Witch Hunters and Deamon Hunters. If you read at the bottom of the page it says: When the times are dangerous (or something like that), the Witch Hunters and Deamon Hunters join forces to defend the enemies of mankind" :lol:
And the BT codex to look good, hope that quality will continue.
Gw just made the BT look good because they are making bank off of it. They dont revise codexs' to make armies better, they revise whichever ones are making them the most money. Examples... Space Marines are obviously their best selling army, and they did need a codex revision. But GW made it an uber codex, stealing everything away from other armies and chapters. examples....
1.) The chaplain litanies of hate rule is an exact copy of the rule from the Imperial guard/ Witch Hunter priest
2.) The entire chapter trait system is a copy of the IG doctrines system, but the SMurf one is a hell of a lot better. Ask any IG player for what I mean.
3.) Space Marines can now have veteran skills? Chaos thing.
4.) And what space marine force would drop pod one or two things in their army. Drop pod rules should have stayed the same... everything or nothing.
5.) It used to be that salamanders and BT were the only chapter that could take multi meltas in their tac squads, and it used to be only BT and DA could have plasma cannons because it went with their fluff perfectly. Not any more
6.) Oh, and now Space marines can all be Ld 10 for free if there's a commander on the field? really fair eh?
7.) Terminators ALWAYS being able to deep strike! sounds like Grey Knight Termies.
8.) Techmarines "blessing of the whatever" an exact copy of the IG techpriest
9.) 2pts for assault marine meltabombs? In every other army its always been 4. not for space marines.
10.) The rhino "repair" rule, an exac copy from the Chaos codex.
11.) That new BT chaplain grimaldus being able to come back after dying... an exact copy of st. celestine from the witch hunters.
12.) "Blessing of the machine spirit" ... an exact copy form the chaos land raider
13.) Admantine mantle... copied from salamanders
14.) Familiar, copied from Inquisitors
I rest my case, GW is NOT making a turn around.
As a side note, even though I do have space marines, i do think the codex was made WAY too good.
As another note, I also have Tau, and I also believe that we do NOt need the new codex. What codex GW needs to work on is Orks, i mean, they dont even have a weapons summary but GW wont do that because they do not sell enough orks.
2000pts Orks 4-2-1
What is wrong with the grammer in that sentence? It is correct.Originally Posted by Da Mighty Camel
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Becuase of my brain stopped responding so I couldn't get a better word.
When the book was originally released all their weapons were described in the third edition rulebook. Later prints of the codex include a summary. There is also a free downloadable weapons summary for those with an old version. While the Orks do need a new codex, it's not for that reason as Games Workshop have fixed the missing weapons page.What codex GW needs to work on is Orks, i mean, they dont even have a weapons summary
The issue of them having people from non-English-speaking countries produce their rulebooks and codecies is only one of the problems... one of the reasons they don't spend time on proofreading is because they have a (virtual) monopoly on the miniature gaming world. They know they have a monopoly, and they act like it. Ask a run-of-the-mill gaming shop how their dealings with GW are, and they will be a lot worse than their dealings, with, say, Wizards of the Coast.
If people are going to buy their error-stricken books, why spend the time to correct errors?
gen.nehring, have you ever considered that the original SM codex (apologies if you have it) had some of these things as soon as it came out.This makes more sense on SMs because they kind of believe in more and take care of the Machine Spirit."Blessing of the machine spirit" ... an exact copy form the chaos land raiderIf familiars are in the original SM codex then Librarians could have familiars way before inquisitors were even made.Familiar, copied from Inquisitors"Uber," is not the right word either. That would imply that the SM codex was all-knowing and had the complete information of every other codex in it........... which it most certaintly does not.But GW made it an uber codex, stealing everything away from other armies and chapters. examples....