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Think about it. How much money have you spent on GW products over the years.
Not just models.. but paint, inks, brushes, white dwarf, rule books, codex's, glue, pliers, drill, clippers, files, dice, entry to gamesday, the new edition rulebook and the codex's to go with them. The list goes on.
I would estimate ive spent nearly four thousand pounds on GW products and I consider myself a light gamer maybe buying something new once a week if not once every two weeks. Plus paints and things when needed. Four thousand pounds.
But then I got to thinking again.. Alot of that was along time ago.. 7 yrs ago to be exact wheni first started and everything was a hell of a lot cheaper then.. Paints were a pound each instead of Â£1.75.. metalics and Inks (or washes as they were called back then) were Â£1.25 instead of Â£2. Singular models were around Â£3-5 instead of Â£4-10 and you could get a full box of 10 completely metal miniatures for a tenner instead of Â£15 for ten plastic guys
I mean I know about inflation and everything but jeez. I know i sound like an old miser but Im only 21. Prices have just slowly gone up, up and up at Gamesworkshop and its starting to ***** me off somehting rotten.
Anyone else think its too pricey?
How much do you think youve spent on GW stuff I bet some of you cochuld have had your whole army hand crafted out the finest silver for the amount youve shoved into GWs back burner..
Anyways Peace out..
i have only been into the hobby for 3 months, i have plunked down around $400 canadian, that includes: starter set, paint set, various paints, csm codex, chaos megaforce, glue, small other things, it is worth it, it brings enjoyment, it is expensive considering they're costs are dirt cheap, but they are a high profit company, and i don't see that changing anytime soon
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they are really expensive, more expensive than they need to be, but GW has great service.
If your into it and you have fun while doing all the GW stuff then why are you complaining??
Can you put a price on happiness?
There's happiness, but then there's also the not quiet good after taste of being ripped off.
When you go to a restaurant for an evening out. There you enjoy the dinner, but when you find the bill is inflated to a degree that you know your being overcharged then that sort of leaves a bitter after taste.
You end up leaving with not so fond memories.
As for me jst spent about Â£100.00 on figures.
Last saturday bought paints, brushes, primer and a CSM codex (liked the Night Lords colour scheme) total Â£38.00
Whoso would be a man must be a non conformist
People should be taught what is, not what should be.
yes we are being ripped off
in 1999 5 space marines were 5 pounds
now they are 7 pounds o_O
As often as I feel ripped off when I compare GW to other miniature and model companies, the truth is they earn about what any comparably sized company does. You can review their financial statements here:
GW Financial Page
Their business practices are pretty much the same as any other company that provides luxury items. If you only ever bought one, then the market would stagnate and they would go under. That's why the release new games, minis, updates, etc on a regular basis. All the gaming, hobby, automobile, computer, etc. companies do it. It's financial survival.
Just keep in mind you are paying for the mini, stores, workers, insurance, development, utilities, etc...
Most items produced by GW are similar in quality (some better, some worse) than other companies products. On average I think they run about 20% higher in cost. EXCEPT for their tools, paint, glue, brushes, basically everything non game related. I can get all of that cheaper and/or better elsewhere. Since I feel this way I don't buy any of those products. I also buy non-GW minuatures and ignore any rules about using them. Sure I can't use them in GW tourneys, so I either don't go or use a differen't army. I try to speak with my wallet.
What it boils down to is their products aren't too expensive because people are still buying them. If they were too expensive people would go elsewhere. And just like cars (or anything else) if it's not selling, the price goes down.
GW will continue with their busness strategy as long as it works. When it stops working they will change or go out of business.
If you think you are being ripped off why do you join the hobby? We are getting a Generous price for what we buy. The reason 5 Miniatures were Â£5 and now Â£6 is because the price for plastic has gone up. If they were Metal the price would explain it, Plastic is more valuable than metal, well led anyway. . .
If you think you are being ripped off take your chances on E-Bay. I wouldnt, but hey then again, my Parents are practicly rich!
Do I think GW is slightly costly? Yes I do
Will I continue to play? Yes I will
See, thing is you hear about all these people who moan and complain (And dont get me wrong, Im not saying anyone on here does, I mean offline too) about "Oh GWs prices this, Such and such is too much." But yet they continue to play.
As for me, well I guess I dont feel the strain on the wallet as much as I dont buy my drills, and other tools from GW, I buy them from model shops. The only thing I buy from GW are the paints, SOME brushes, and the minis.....and the books, as Im addicted to BL novels =^___^=
Also, my theory. Most of the people I meet who complain....guess what, did they have all their minis painted? No. Did to go a buy the newest thing alot of the time? Yes. Did they moan when they had no money left. Yes (And trust me, I was pretty much the biggest GW fan in boarding school, I didn't hear the end of it!
Plus they were teens, and in boarding school. Most of us were on set budgets, but I would think its the same with most teens without a small part time job or something.
So to all those who still have minis left to paint. DONT buy any more till you have painted them all =^_~=
Get a money tin or something, or one of those one time usage piggy banks, and save. Save what, a few quid a week? maybe adding the odd tenner, then once that huge army of unpainted minis is finished, you have some money kept away to add towards your next GW spending spree.
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Okay the thing that many people who start topics like this is the amount of money it takes to produce some of their stuff.
As of the last check the amount of money it cost to make 1 master mold (the mold used to make the molds used in their factories) was roughly 1.2 million dollars U.S. that includes shipping, materials, paychecks, equipment.
So when you think about it, the price your getting for the mini is pretty damn cheap.
When you factor in that they have some of the worlds greatest sculpters working for them, who cost a whole lot of money to employ, using some of the best equipment in the world to produce it, plus having to ship the product, the protection it costs when shipping the product (wouldn't be surprised of they travel via armored car) and the machines needed to create the molds from the master mold, and the machinery needed to create the miniatures, the employees who oversee the operation, the packaging, the pay for the contract truck drivers, the store employees, the materials to open a new store, uniforms, electric, gasoline for travel, advertising, web hosting, area rental for campaigns, company benifits, materials for lectures, plus the constant eratta, updates, new ideas, game systems, legal battles (copyright infringement, ip infringement, etc.) And on top of all that a major company needs to have enough financing to pay every employee for roughly 4 months without any profit to stay alive in todays market, I think the prices are pretty damn good.
Also if you want an idea of how hard this company is fighting in their legal battle, every few months I slap down a 10 page document to a friend of mine in the company containing IP addresses of people who are stealing their products, so every few months they get about 500 new law suits they have to go through with less they lose their codex sales to net swapping, yes, it's really that bad, the worst I saw was one guy who had every single codex, and rulebook for 40K and Fantasy downloaded on his computer, every one, and I understand that he is entitled to make a copy for archival purposes, but he was also sharing it, which classifies as intent to distribute, it's like saying you can't bust a drug dealer because "how do you know he was really going to sell it" if he was yelling "HEY get your crack here".
Also they are in a constant battle with forgeries, people who come up with the bright idea to make a cast of their model, but don't realize that it is hurting the company, by adding fake minis to the market you lose assurance that a 3rd party object is real and the faith in the company is tarnished, recently at least 3 people have gone to court for making entire replica armies.
Also they have to make up for store level theft, I'm sure they to as will any company lose thousands a year from every store they have due to theft, my store was losing roughly $800 a month because of theft, and we kept busting people and their excuse was always "it doesn't make a difference, what's taking one candy bar going to do" well the figure above speaks for itself.
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