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Hey eerybody, today was my first RTT with my tyranids, acutally it was my first game with tyranids EVER. So, I went 3-0-0, and I was the only person to do so. However, I was consorted by the man running the tournament, bob, and told if my sportsmanship scores were as low as they were today for the next tourney, I wont be able to enter another tourney for a while. Now, I dont think I was overly ****y when I won, Normally, after a game I would go over to my two other friends to see how they were doing. They would always ask "how did you do?" as would everyone who I talked to. I respected my opponent and told them that I won, but it was a very close game (they all were). So its not my out of game attitude.
Now, I guess that leaves my in-game attitude. Bob had told me to liven up a little and laugh about things and just have a good time. During a game, I think I wasn't that much of a stickler, but I sort of played stricter than I do with a normal match with friends, seeing as it was a tournament and all. Another thing I'm thinking is that because it was my first game with tyranids, I didn't have my act down, there was a lot of "Dude thats AP4 not AP3" and just little things that I should've known. Another factor why i didn't place so well (overall category) was that I had NONE of my guys painted, but I am in the process, definently in 2 months (next tourney) I will have them done.
Now whats really mean is that in my 1st game, I played my friend who I play ALL the time (2 years) so I play Tau (1st army) and he orks. Naturally, he hasn't won very many games against them. Today was no different. Out of 6 possible points, he gave me 2. I asked him afterwards and he said that a lot of the little thing got to him, like me being 1" from making the charge and still doing so. I dont know about the other two guys
So my question to you guys so that I can continue my RTT adventures is, What really brings down how you think of your opponent DURING a game
P.S. 1st game vs orks Killed all his guys
2nd game vs Necrons, won by 200 VP
3rd game vs Crimson Fists Won by 1 table corner
Damn the greenbeans! -East of Eden
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I am not sure how you were acting but if you think you were behaveing fine one thing that really bugs me is when the opponet is way to tense it just creates a negative atmoshere and then if the guy brags just a little bit it pisses me off so think about the tension in the game was it fun or was it compettative and if your opponets are really serious do not taunt them whatever you do
Well if you didn't cat to braggy or cheap, then I have no idea why your friend would give you a 2. Ussually when I play a friend in a tourney we don't really care who wins, so we just have fun, and always ussually give full points to each other for Sportsmanship, but thats my experience.
Now i do find in a tournament when you play against players you don't really know, you have to be strict on the rules, and make sure that they are following the rules (as well as you).
So if you were behaving yourself, I don't know why they would have given you a low score, but sometimes if you beat competative players and you beat them, then they will give you a low score
One Shot, One Kill
I think you were the only person there with the best sportmanship actually....
You were just being calm, you don't need to laugh at every single thing in order to improve an atmosphere. What if your tired, or just pissed off bout something else? The shop owner is just making everything worse. He should let you be who you are, you didn't even brag or anything, you were just thinking and focusing, its like Nazi ideals, making you have one personality or nothing else.
Your friend is an ass for that. Next game, whoop him, and whoop him hard. He deserves that much. He was making the atmosphere bad if anything with giving his own friend a bad score for beating him for another time. Maybe he should ask for tips or improve himself, not take it out on you. He was being a sore loser.
As for painted minis, thats unfair too. Different people have different schedules, you actually have a life so you don't have time to paint each an every one with amazing detail. At my place, we all get to do what we like, they don't care if you have painted your guys, we just all have fun and when we lose we learn, not act like asses.
You can't expect to go to a tournament and do well with unpainted minis. It's just a requirement, I don't like having to deal with it more than anyone else but it's expected.
As for sportsmanship you have to live up to their criteria. I have the same problem at my place of work, I have to act cheery for my bosses or I get in trouble. I"m normally deadpan and very calm and laid back, but I have to crack jokes for them and smile. I totally understand your frustration with that and the people at your store should look over their criteria.
What brings down what I think of an opponent? Bragging at any point of a game. It's unacceptable and nothing makes me see red like someone bragging about how they totally rule and pound everyone with their 3 wraithlord altaioc force, (oh yeah, i'm thinking of a particular guy) especially when you brought a fluffy force for a friendly game and the braggart brought a total powergaming list.
Ask yourself why in the world would you trust a win loss record? Playing them yourself is the only way to tell.
The true joy in the game is playing down to the last model, no matter the odds.
as with all tourny's that sportsmanship is tied to final score, there will be people who rank you low just to make is so you don't do as well. it's a very flawed system imo, as the goal of any tournament is to win.
I don'y play many competition games, and I'm pretty poor at painting, but
every time I enter a competition, I make sure that my figures are painted.
Even if they're only base-coated, it's polite to turn up with painted army.
Look at it from their point of view. If you had spent a year painting up your
army, and it's beaten by some guy's unpainted min-maxed army of doom - how
many points would you give them for sportmanship?
And before you say that you don't have a "min-maxed army of doom",
what did you say about the last guy to beat you? When you had a painted army and he didn't ...
I'm not trying to stir things up, I'm just trying to point out that some people think that
a painted army is the minimum required - especially in a competition.
Just my 2p ...
thinking a bit, id agree with that, good postOriginally Posted by Spon
Originally Posted by Cheredanine
i hate when people are bias.. oh thats 6 inchs .. or thats not hull down ect
i always try do what i thinks correct.. even if its not so good for me game wise, if you did move 7inchs on the charge like you say your freind said id score you very low on sportsmanship to
fortune favors the brave
Personally I find just a few things somewhat annoying.
1) Unpainted Armies: Perhaps I should clarify. I don't necesarily dislike the people if I play them once and they have a partically unpainted army, or if they just recently purchased it and are giving it a bit of a test run. However, it does annoy me if they after a number of weeks they still have made little to no progress on their painting, and are still using a bunch of basecoated [partly assembled] what-evers.
2) Poor winners/losers: In my humble opinion both the victor and the defeated players should show some good grace. Telling each other it was a close game, complimenting on their army or tactics and so on and so forth. It doesn't have to be a whole lot, but just a little bit of a positive attitude can go a long way.
3) People who cheat/accuse others of cheating: I realize that everyone makes mistakes, and that sometimes a list will accidentally be a few points over, or perhaps they'll mistake a AP 4 weapon for AP 3 or something (seeing as I play Imerial Guard that isn't a huge problem for me :shifty. Perhaps later one of us will notice that they screwed up but I typically don't particuarily care. No, what really annoys me are those people that instead of moving 6 inches instead move 7. Or that knowingly go over the point limit by a fair bit (I was unfortunate enough to once go up against 1350 points with a 1000 point list.)
That's pretty much all that I can think of at the moment. And it seems like a shame with what happened to you bobotheguy. Some people mistake concentration with being too focussed and un-fun like.