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I voted Grey Knight Terminators because they're the only ones I've ever used in my first army. They're pretty solid CC units, but they don't have anything that can ignore Invulnerable saves in CC. I'd also love for them to be able to get lightning claws like other Termies get, I don't think it'd be unfluffy. They'd be hard to use right anyway what with the lack of shooting weapons and the DS.
On a side note I have considered adding a squad of Hardened Veterans to my DH army - it'd be a great surprise to my opponents - who else has thought of that? Too bad the Leman Russ requires two troops choices and not just two infantry or else I'd use that option all the time.
Possibly more powerful is a nicely-equipped squad of XV8s. Crisis suits can be built to kill just about anything except the biggest tanks, and can be used so that they almost never get touched. Except by other really fast units like Eldar. It sounds like Howling Banshees could tear them new ones all over the place. But each unit has another unit that makes it seem a waste to field against. It's all in the strategy.
You forgot Tyranid Warriors!!! A squad tooled up can take out GK termies, Obliterators, Immortals, even the Nightbringer on the charge. THAT is the best Elite. OF course, they get shot to hell, but that's another story.....
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I vote gk terminators , for there reonably low points cost nemasis wepons and all the very cool gray knight special rules (especily the always allowed to deep stike what ever the mission )
xv8s all the way. giving them crazy weapons and then being able to move an shoot both and then mvonig in the assault phase. then on top of that although they have 2 wounds, u can give them shield generators for a 4+ save and then for another 30 points. u get another 2 wounds for drones. 1 good squad can have 6 wounds before the crisis even start gettin hurt
i vote GK terminators i mean look at that strength with nemisis force weapoin and the sv go terminators.
In the end there is only war.
Even though Oblits will probably own them in Combat too. . .
Well mayby not but they are still good combat machines. . .
no 1 can best my sqd ov GK termies.
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the only thing is termies are dang expensive and easy to die from any ap2 gun.
i like vic. because they pop out of terrian and tie up the enemy up good . but terms are prettey nasty to
only thing is lictors against tau is bad because tau can screen for idden set up so it has no point to it.