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Should LOTR be rid of, made a specialist game or remain one of the big three. This was sparked by the recent WD thread on LOTR.
GW have maintained that LotR is a core game, and as such will be featured prominently in WD. Don't expect that to change.
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I am not saying it will change but I believe it intresting to find the opinion of hobbyists in general, but thanks any way.
If it became a specialist game there wouldn't be a big three to remain part of.
As a guy who has never played it or wanted to play it....I'd say destroy it. Burn it all. My game store just stopped carrying it.....Thank God.....I've never actually seen a game played and the owner of the store has a huge Helms Deep multileveled master model. I never saw the point of rehashing battles from horribly long winded book series that I trudged through as a 14 y/o dork. As a 32 y/o dork.....I'm against it. I'd rather WD had more modeling and battle reports etc.....
I think that it should become kinda half big three half specialist game type thing, I mean have little or no white dwarf artices, but stay in stores, with a smaller section, and let it be played as often as it is now, because when the movies were out, GW made a killing from it. But now the movies have stopped, there just trying to squeeze every penny out of it.
The reason I said keep it in the shops is beacause its something that little kids run over to and spend tons on, even if they never learn how to play.
The reason I voted keep it as one of the big three is because I think thats more what I meant by keeping it in stores.
Last edited by The Spoon; February 8th, 2007 at 21:05.
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First, I voted to keep it in as one of the main 3. I love the gameplay of the LotR SBG much more than Warhammer Fantasy Battles - moving troops of goblins or lizardmen in well-formed ranks seems a bit bogus to me, and takes away from the immersion that I like to achieve in all my gaming. To assume Skaven would charge an enemy in well formed infantry blocks just rings unlikely and not very skaven-like to me. In fact, the reason I have migrated into 40K at all is entirely because I began collecting and gaming with the LotR stuff.
Second - and on the other hand - I have felt the same way about other gaming systems as well. Not to get the point too off topic, but when Wizards of the Coast began to invest so much into a brand new setting (Eberron) I was outraged. I am an avid roleplayer outside of my new mini-modeling and mini-gaming hobby. All the other settings I loved were being pushed aside for this new half-thought setting. How many people have heard of Dragonlance or the Forgotten Realms? I imagine a few here have.... To think that production of material for the first -Dragonlance - was entirely dropped (except the novels), and that the Realms is quickly becoming an afterthought to this new mostly-unheard-of setting seems ludicrous. Far much more so than GW winning the bid to become New Line's Official Manufacturer of mini gaming in Middle Earth (No small feat) in my opinion. Fantasy Battles and 40K still feature prominently in their publications, production (both in army books/codexes and models), and advertising. The same can not be said for the two Wizard's ranges I mentioned.
Sorry for the rant on that way off-topic subject ... I just wanted to show a little empathy to those who show great dislike for LotR here. I can see where you are coming from.
I just feel that we can all live with LotR Strategy Battle Game existing, and not being burned - as Davesnothereman suggested. I'm sure your game store probably sells Heroclix, Pokemon cards, and other crap too, but nobody's making you buy it.
Just my humble input.
Voted to keep it as one of the main three.
The whole ruleset is much more suited to a 'swords n sorcery' style game than the rigid, blockish style of gaming that WHFB is. At the begining of a game if you see a unit of chaos knights opposite your humble spearmen... hey presto your spearmen WILL get charged by those chaos knights. Some games can be over as soon as the deployment phase is over. Because I played LOTR before i ever played WHFB I have never even seriously collected a FB army (apart from eshin but that got duped when 7thED came out).
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Definitely a Specialist game since a few people have invested into it.
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I would say specialist. From what I can tell its not really popular enough now the movies are gone to justify remaining a core game. If it was a different game it would probably be specialist by now, but because GW spent so much on the license, moving it aside would be admtting defeat! Theres still more to be squeezed from it...They'll start running low on material soon too, maybe start producing stuff that only the most die hard Tolkien fan knows about, so its probably time for it to retire away from the core games club. I haven't really plaed it and I do quite lke some of the models, but WHFB is where its at.
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