Are Grey Knight Terminators worth their weight in Gold?

[EvilKota]

can i use holocause and go to close combat in the same turn

[A.T.]

can i use holocause and go to close combat in the same turn

Normally you use it at init 1 while in close combat, but it's an interesting question as RAW the power doesn't say you have to be in combat to use it, nor does it say when in the assault phase it must be used.

I've seen the argument used that GK could throw out this power in the assault phase but opt not to assault anything. I'd guess if you then charged that same unit your opponent might have a case to argue that the holocaust's effects shouldn't be applied until Init 1 (as written).

The rules could be a little clearer to be honest.

[Cerrik]

Holocaust tells you that you use it in the Assault phase at Int 1. Doesn't that pretty much preclude that you must be in CC to use it, as those units outside of CC do nothing? In other words, if you are out of CC, you have no initiative value for that assault phase?

[Sgt.S]

GKT are an interesting pit of points. On one hand, they can deal damage and take it. On the other, everybody wants to kill them when they show up. Shrike had a field day with my guys, I died inside when that happened...stoopid SM Codex!

Anyways, 3x Psycannons=3 GKPA...troops control objectives now and you may need the bodies to keep the objective! On the other hand, nothing says love like 9 Str 6 shots the face followed by Pwr wpn atks!

Weight in Gold, no. Weight in Nickel...probably!

[flameseeker574]

Although I don't play DH I use a unit of 5 GKT in my blood angels list. Let me start by saying that they are awesome models and should be used for that reason alone but they also do much more. The STR 6 Power weapons that strike at initiative are great and if you toss a psycannon into the unit then their shooting isn't to shabby either. For BA they're decent but for DH (in theroyhammer) they are essential as they are practicly the list's only heavy hitters.

[Talljester]

I just started with my DH force, first thing i picked up where some exemplar bastions, amazing models, look like GKT's with more archaic armour, they were the reason i started, just working on psycannon and storm bolter conversions, here's a pick of the warden, which is my Brother Captain (:

Tj

p.s let me apologize for the shoddiness of these pictures in advance.

[jy2]

Nice dude. Those minis got me curious so I looked them up on the net. For those of you not familiar, I believe exemplar bastions are from the Warmachines gaming system. I'm posting another pic of them that I found on the net.

[Talljester]

yes,, that may be a slightly better picture then mine,,
thanks though (:
my only problem is their storm Bolters and psycannons,
and besides the already leader looking guy
making another one of them a brother captain
well I'll keep you guys updated

Tj

[Grey nut]

Nice


are they pre painted?


where does one procure such models at bargin prices?

[jy2]

Nice


are they pre painted?

Alas, no.

where does one procure such models at bargin prices?

I see a few throughout ebay. Just do a search for exemplar bastions on ebay.