which assassin?

[Dorhnkurk]

Man...you really thought about your strategy, nice dude. Just a suggetsion, for against Eldar /w wraithlord use the Eversor as he dows wound on a 4+, the Eversor goes first (/w d6 charging bonus), needs a 3+ and a 4+ with a possible 10 attacks and the Eldar player will be so suprised you took down his best model that easily. (only problem is im an Eldar player also so if you happen to ever play me, forget I ever said this...)

hadn't fought eldar much, so the thought hadn't occurred to me. *laughs* that'd sure to make eldar cry. dropping melta bombs all around his vehicles might do it too.

[The_Giant_Mantis]

Just always use the round that wounds on 2+ (hellfire I think),makes him so much better

Except that you can't..

The Vindicare assassin can use one hellfire round per battle. Only one, no more.

I'm not saying he's useless, only that I've never seen him do anything worthwhile other than scaring your opponent a bit.

However, I don't want to underestimate his value.. His strength, I believe, is not really in what he, personally can kill, but the synergy he can have with other units (i.e. taking out heavy weapons reduces the threat to your troops/tanks in that area significantly.)

Everyone badmouths the Culexus.. I think fluffwise they're the best temple, and he has some funky rules. It would just be nice if there was ever a reason to use one in a game.

The one thing it seems to do well (in proxy, I'll admit..) is wipe the floor with tyranid warriors. Even there, though, he's a bit fragile to justify the mammoth points cost.

[poeticwarrior]

The Mini Close Combat God called the eversor is an animal.
I used an eversor last night against Renegade Space Marines and not only did he lock up 2 tactical squads and a Captain etc. but he killed them all single handidly costing my opponent 300 pts plus.
It was cool.

[Terzo]

I played a battle yesterday, me and necron against taus/orks (500 each). The roll for mission ended up allowing my team to choose, and we went for cleanse. In the roll for mission rules we came up with alpha.

And I had no idea what to do with my eversor. I was originally hoping to infiltrate him close to the tau, but the orks ended up forming a huge wall in front of them. What do you guys do with your assassins when they're not allowed to infiltrate?

[Gavinrad]

you pick a secondary target and pitch him into them. If you can't infiltrate at all, thats not so horrible with an Eversor since his 12 inch assault range allows him to get into someone, and even the lowest point cost squad should be worth close to his points value.

[MagicJuggler]

The Culexus COULD be useful if your opponent ACTUALLY used Daemons. Forcing them to test for Instability at Ld 7 is always a nasty item...

[mEGALOMANIAC]

I played a battle yesterday, me and necron against taus/orks (500 each). The roll for mission ended up allowing my team to choose, and we went for cleanse. In the roll for mission rules we came up with alpha.

And I had no idea what to do with my eversor. I was originally hoping to infiltrate him close to the tau, but the orks ended up forming a huge wall in front of them. What do you guys do with your assassins when they're not allowed to infiltrate?

The Eversor is a good weapon against Orks because he's immune to their Choppas' save lowering effect. I personally would always use an Eversor against Troops, including Ork Boyz.

If you cannot, for some reason, get the Eversor into a squad of Troops, run him through cover (or far enough back that shooting him at least requires a Ld test) to another target. I wouldn't bother wasting him against vehicles unless that's all he has as targets, or against HQ/Elite units, since they tend to have a lot more strikeback power.

[BoxANT]

Also, a question, I'm going to try using the Eversor tonight against my friends in our 3v3 battle, it says about his two pistols and he doesn't count as moving, etc. so if I fire twice with one pistol (not sure if its considered rapid-fire or not), can I still charge?

pistols are not "rapid fire" weapons, they are classed as "pistol" weapons.
the eversor always counts as stationary when firing his pistol, so he can move and shoot twice.
however (unfortunatly) the BGB states that you can move and fire once with pistol and then assault, but if you stay stationary and fire twice, you cannont assasult

so really, that rule for the Eversor is now worth nothing in 4ed.


but despite it all, my DHs wont leave home with out their trusty CC-mini-Monster

[Emp.]

you pick a secondary target and pitch him into them. If you can't infiltrate at all, thats not so horrible with an Eversor since his 12 inch assault range allows him to get into someone, and even the lowest point cost squad should be worth close to his points value.

If not infiltrating, what about hiding him behind a tank? If you have a rhino or LRC or LR that's moving up anyway, isn't that a possibility for safe cover for him and then with his 12" charge he'll probably charge when the tank unit charges.

[Terzo]

Megalo, I did crash into an ork squad-the initial charge was nice, but the next turn I was surrounded by orks (literally). Though I did manage to take down two more that turn, when you have 27 attacks coming at you...welll he bit the dust:/

Though he did kill 3 more orks in the melt down