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Vambraces of defence
Armour of caledor
-2) Mage lv1
2 dispel scrolls
-3) Mage lv1
Core-1) 19 Spearmen, full command *Noble here
-2) 19 Spearmen, full command *Mage here
Special-1) Lion chariot
-2) Lion chariot
-3) 9 Dragon princes, champion & lion standard *Prince here
Rare-1) Repeater bolt thrower
-2) Repeater bolt thrower } Mage near these
-3) Reppeater bolt thrower
-4) Great eagle
Im sure many of you will say i should divide the dragon princes but i feel they are too vunreble from shooting, and a loss of one or 2 would be a big dent in there effectiveness.
First, I really do like the list, it's different than a lot of other ones I've seen. Just a few comments...
Normally I'm a huge fan of 3 RBT's, maybe even 4 if I can fit them in, but here the Great Eagles are absolutely critical. A S7 wound for an auto-kill on one or both of those chariots due to war-machine fire is a major risk, and Eagles are the best way to stop that. Swapping the 3rd RBT for a 2nd Eagle seems really important here.
I'll concede that Dragon Princes definitely do attract more than their fair share of missile fire. But with the current configuration, you're just giving your opponent 150 VP for no reason if he manages to kill the unit. The knights in the 2nd rank won't give any bonus at all if even one gets killed prior to close combat, they won't be able to attack anything, and you can't be wasting turns reforming to move models up to the first rank. Dragon Princes are supposed to be shock troops; one round in combat and break the opponent, chase them down. Without the charge bonus from their lances, 2A @ S3 is barely anything to squawk at after the first round. Secondly, I'm assuming that the Dragon Prince unit is a "hammer unit" (like the two chariots) protecting the spears blocks; if not, then I'm not sure those spears will get a chance to do anything other than get surrounded. A smart opponent will ignore your spear blocks and focus on trying to trap your one good Dragon Prince unit, as the chariots aren't too hard to avoid and spears suck when they charge (compared to spears getting charged). With the unit split in two, this kind of tactic won't be possible, or if the opponent does try to isolate the cavalry units, it will be much more difficult.
Notwithstanding the question of "1 unit or 2?," IMHO, Banner of Arcane Protection and Banner of Ellyrion are both better choices than Lion Standard for those Dragon Princes. Your general will be with them, so they are taking those LD tests for fear/terror on a 10. The unit is only going to be failing about 8% of those tests anyway. If you are going to spend points on a banner, may as well be something non-redundant.
Lastly, if you can find a way to scrounge up the points, there's no reason not to give your Noble with the spears the upgrade to BSB; he can carry the same equipment and for and extra 25 points provide a key re-roll for break tests. See my argument in Aenar's thread if you want the details.
Even given these comments, I do really like this list, and I think it can do pretty well.
thank you for your opinion