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I have yet to play with this list but I was just wondering if people knew it was possible. Since the biggest improvements were made in HE combat ability I thought it might be worth a try. Comments are welcome
Great Weapon, Armour of Caledor, Sacred Incense
BSB, Barded Steed, Heavy armour, Shield and Banner of the World Dragon
Heavy Armour, Elven Steed, Star Lance, Enchanted Shield
Full Command, Banner of Arcane Protection
20 Phoenix Gaurd
5 Dragon Princes
Drakemaster, Standard Banner of Ellyrion
5 Dragon Princes
5 Shadow Warriors
I believe that this leaves 142 points left over. The general idea would be that the unit of 18 spearmen would deploy in a single line in front with the BSB and Prince The turn before they charged, or are charged the Prince would drop into the spearmen and the BSB into the Phoenix Gaurd, they wouldn't reform into an effective combat formation until they have paniced (spelling) and are behind the lines, I know it is a gamble with a lot of panic tests but Ld 10 should be ok right (famous last words). The Star lance noble is there as protection againts chariots and an additional warmachine hunter if desperate, probably deployed with one of the Dragon Princes Standard bearer can also join DP to give them taht extra punch/ protection if neccessary but depends on terrain opponent and thier job on the day, In which case would use the 22 as the shield not the 18.
I also thought that Caradryan might be useful for the PG with Magic resistance 3 but he is expensive.
I think that the extra points should probably go on a small unit of say 6 SM or WL and an extra Eagle, but I have listed it to get your opinions, I want it without any mages though.
WARNING, IN CHARACTER RESPONCE
Arklite looked out from his hiding place outside the elven war hosts gathering ground stroking his beard thoughtfully; "damnable elves, I promised the count I’d help whip these buggers into shape so I should bloody get on with it". Clambering out of the bushes the dwarf tapped the nearest (quite oblivious) sentry on the shoulder.
"OI BIG EARS!, TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER!"
A nice looking list to say for sure, the only thing i can suggest is adding a heap of anti magic to protect your pansy warriors you have lots of combat punch but if the enemy can bring some magic missile attacks to bear i suspect you will suffer quite significantly, what with your T3 and inferior non dwarven armour
The screening seems an ok idea but its a typical cowardly tactic used by the likes of goblins! Hills completely negate the trick and i doubt most armies with a significant shooting arm will have any problems in A: seriously harming the screening spear elves and B: causing LOTS of panic tests.And with the spear elves being right across your line (and probably over US5) they could potentially cause a cascade rout.
The other problem is if you end up within the charge range of something exceptionally fast! Your entire army ends up car parked behind a single long line of spear elves who no longer have the advantage of the spear wall and could be tied up indefinitly while the enemy bombard you with magic/artillery or position themselves to surround/block your own units
fight with honour and deploy properly you pointy eared oath breaker
*grumbles about how elves used to be 8 times tougher and knew how to put up a fight back in the day*
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[16:19] <@Alzer> Arky's right though
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A dwarf would never sneak up on a High Elf! They stink too badly of stale ale and unwashed beard!
Anyways, as for the list. I would agree that some form of anti magic is needed. What that may be is up to you. You also need a weapon for your BSB, like a lance or something. Also might as well get your star lance prince a 1+ save with barding. However I understand you might want to break him off to do his own thing.
Not too sure about the screening idea, as the short one pointed out, it has some definite flaws. Besides that its just personal preference, but the list looks pretty good. I myself always take RBT's, but that might not be up your alley.
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Thanks for the suggestions you two.
I agree about the screening, and I don't know that I would use it that often, to start with elves are too damn expensive to be a worthwhile screen, and hills do make it a bit pointless. As to the magic thing, that was kind of the point of the screen, being able to make one unit immune to magic means that if they are in the front there is no line of sight anymore to other more vulnerable units, (enemy wizards are often not deployed on a hill) but some spells don't need line of sight.
The flawed tactics aside, I will continue to work on them, any suggestions about what to buy with the remaining points?
Hmm. I would do an in character response to Arkies first post, but to be honest, I would also have to send him a thesaurus, and a stool so it wouldn't go right over his head
Unfortunately, the best protection I have found in the new High elves is magic. An Archmage with the Book of Hoeth and the Lore of Life can deal with almost any shooting threat you care to mention, (especially if they roll the howler wind spell). As for magic defence, the amulet of fire, banner of arcane protection and a lvl 1 mage with the annulyian crystal, are all relatively cheap ways to boost that stat.
In the end, a combat army now is only really possible with magical support, or even at slightly magic heavy. The only other way I can think of is to put the characters on eagles, (the prince and noble), with the 2 magical bows, and go character hunting?
I hope this helps
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Thanks everybody all of the points you have raised are good. I have also found that my successful lists have had a great deal more magic in this edition than in 6th and I couldn't fiure out why since our biggest improvement is in combat.
GN why give the guys on eagle the bows, they can then not pick out the characters, I know that it makes them more flexible, you aren't solely relying on combat with them, but wouldn't magic armour help them more survivable.