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    2000 Elven Friendly - Advice Needed

    Hello,

    Just getting into Warhammer and put together this list - any advice would be greatly appreciated. I know the Dragon is considered cheese, but I like the theme of the caledor Army.

    Lord - On Moon Dragon, Hvy Arm, Ench. shield, Lance, Vamb. of Defence - 527.

    Noble on Barded, Hvy arm, Sh, Lance Gem of Hoeth - 156

    Mage on Barded - 116

    Core

    10 Lothern Sea Guard w/ Mus - 135
    10 Lothern Sea Guard w/ Mus - 135

    Special

    6 Dragon Princes (Full Command) - 230
    5 Dragon Princes (Mus and Std) - 180 (Noble Here)
    5 Dragon princes (Mus and Std) - 180 (Mage Here)

    Rares

    2 Repeater Bolt Throwers -

    2 Eagles -

    Total 1959

    Leaves 40 pts for - 2 X Drakemasters w/ DP's
    OR 2 X Dispel Scrolls
    Or 1 Annulian Crystal
    Or 1 Seerstaff (This is fluff to get Flaming Sword of Rhuin for Mage)

    Any advice would be appreciated.


    Cheers.

    Last edited by DavidWC09; March 24th, 2008 at 23:33. Reason: some points removed

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    Hello:happy:

    First: The dragon is not considered cheese and would you please write either the full word or use the first letters in the word to shorten it, this makes it easier to read.

    Your list looks very competive and challenging though I think three units of DP are a lot of points and when you field a dragon as well you have half your points already, if not more.
    I would absolutely spend my spare points on two dispel scrolls if the mage is only there for protection.

    I'm not a fan of LSG but I think they fit very well in your list as you have both speed and CC units. Be aware that you will be outnumbered by any foe so watch out for those big infantry units as you will have to break them on the charge if you are going to break them at all.

    Good luck with your list.:happy:
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    Thank you for the reply

    I appreciate your input.

    I thought about dropping one unit of Dragon Princes and adding to the LSG - but my fear is that the points I put into the LSG will lag behind the Cavalry/Dragon and only allow for Str 3 shooting.

    The 2 Units of 10 fulfill the Core requirement - can shoot to help out the Cavalry - but are there to Guard the RBT's, Charge any Units that the Dragon can Terror their way and possibly a light Counter-attack force.

    If you have any other ideas I would be glad to hear them.

    Thanks

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    I'd say drop one unit of DPs and exchange the LSG for archers if you absolutely want the shooting. With the spare points I would recommend getting some elite infantry, maybe some PG for the static combat res and fear. Alternatively some SM. Both of these unit would be great to guard the RBTs but SM could do it in smaller numbers then the PG. If you find this to work for you it could be an idea to make your archers spearmen to get more CC power.

    Hope it helped!:happy:
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    Re-worked List for 2K Elven Friendly

    Thanks for the help,

    How about this then,

    Prince on Moon Dragon, Heavy Armour,Enchanted Shield, Vambraces of Defence 521

    1 BSB Hvy Armour, Great Waepon, Battle Banner - 202

    1 Mage Lvl 1 - 2X Dispel or Annulian - 140

    15 Spears w/ FC - 160
    15 Spears w/ FC - 160

    15 Phoenix Guard - Banner of Arcane Protection (Mage and BSB Here) - I already have these so I want to use them instead of buying Sword Masters.

    6 DP's FC - 230

    2 Repeater Bolt Throwers -

    2 Great Eagles -

    Total 1993

    Again any thoughts, Ideas appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
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    Very good;Y

    Now I'm satisfied. Let me know how it fares.
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    Thanks for the help

    Thank you for the help.

    I will try this composition out - my only problem is that I would like one more unit of Dragon Princes to follow the Caledor Theme - but cant seem to get them w/o losing the Phoenix Guard - If anyone has another idea to make it more Caledor I would aprreciate your input.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royalwulff View Post
    Thanks for the help,

    How about this then,

    Prince on Moon Dragon, Heavy Armour,Enchanted Shield, Vambraces of Defence 521give this guy a lance at least, I usually don't recomment the dragon armor upgrade, but it keeps you from worrying about 1/3 of the magic missiles in this case.

    1 BSB Hvy Armour, Great Weapon, Battle Banner - 202

    1 Mage Lvl 1 - 2X Dispel or Annulian - 140

    15 Spears w/ FC - 160not sure these are big enough to justify command. I'd make one 20 strong and the other 10 strong or exchange for 1:1 spearmen and archers
    15 Spears w/ FC - 160

    15 Phoenix Guard - Banner of Arcane Protection (Mage and BSB Here) - I already have these so I want to use them instead of buying Sword Masters.I really don't see anyone gunning for the phoenix guard with magic. If they're that magic heavy they're going to kill the dragon first and then surround the PG, til you say uncle. Warbanner works better with PG as well as a few more numbers. Maybe drop 1 eagle and get 18 PG

    6 DP's FC - 230

    2 Repeater Bolt Throwers -

    2 Great Eagles -

    Total 1993
    my 2 cents

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    Thanks for the Post

    That may be an idea.

    I originally wanted a Cavalry army with the Dragon - but it seems from most posts that Infantry is the way to go.

    I will play with this and re - post.


    Thanks for the help.

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    Hrm, well if you are looking for a Caledor theme, then your first army list is much closer to it then your second in my opinion.

    I'd drop the spearmen for archer, keep them at minimum size and keep them back with the BT's. Pick up atleast one or two more units of Dragon Princes, and probably drop the Phoenix Guard. That is of course if you are looking for a faster army. Another option for a Caledor theme is to pick up a dragon mage in addition to the prince on the dragon.

    Also remember PG and SM's serve different purposes in the army. PG are an anvil unit with thier 4+ ward, and SM are for killing things. I'd include what you neeeded more of.

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