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    2000 point high elves army list

    I am relitivly new to warhammer and have just went out and brought a load of high elves this is a 2000p army i have made

    teclis

    mage 1
    lvl 2
    jewel of the dusk
    the seerstaff of saphery-180

    mage 2
    lvl 2
    ring of corin
    talisman of protection-165

    noble
    dragon armour
    shield
    bsb
    banner of sorcery-163

    16x archers
    hawk eye
    light armour-202

    16xlothern sea guard
    full command
    shield
    banner of ellyrion
    (noble in here)-245

    lion charriot-
    rbt
    rbt-

    8x silver helms
    full command
    shields-227


    power dice- 10+d3+d3+1 bound spell

    despell dice- 6+d3+teclis despell scroll

    In future please do not post point costs of special characters, or units that have no upgrades - GN out

    Last edited by gingerninja; April 25th, 2008 at 09:44.

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    Silver Helms are useless, integrate DP's in here instead (use 6, perhaps with a musician). Also so many archers in one unit is not efficient unless you get a nice hill or something, I suggest just keeping it at 10 and don't give them a champion or light armour, it isn't worth it. Also The LSG are well, not that great of a choice IMHO, either take 10 more archers or 21 spearmen (perhaps with FC, depending on your style). Your Magic is decent but it could be stronger Instead of the Ring of Corin get the Ring of Fury, which is multiple uses! (or preferably have the RoF and the RoC). Chariots are good in pairs, The LC is pretty tempting to use but 2 Tiranoc Chariots might be a better idea... There are many more things I would change but... Well start with that perhaps? I my comments help you, and I hope you enjoy playing HE, it's a great army ^^

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    The V_Dud is correct change the silver helms for 6DP with a musician, If you don't have the DP's use the SH until you do as counts as DP's. I would then give the DP's the BoS and give your BsB the armour of caledor and a great weapon to increase the hitting power of your spearmen unit and increase his chances of survival. I also would stick to units of 10 archers without enhancements of any kind and spearmen in units of 19 with FC or 21. On problem with the list is mage one has the JoD and seerstaff he can only have one or the other, only one arcane item per mage. Personally I don't like chariots of any description they don't usually survive very long. I would take another unit of five DP's instead. The list has potential and magically its very strong. However you have to game with a list you enjoy using and can afford to get, I hope the comments have been of some help and they are only my opinion so good luck and have fun.

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    ok thanks for the comments i have made the changes and this is how the list looks like

    teclis

    mage 1
    lvl 2
    jewel of the dusk
    guardian phoenix-175

    mage 2
    lvl 2
    ring of fury
    talisman of protection -185

    noble
    shield
    bsb
    armour of ccaledor
    great weapon
    ring of corin-159

    10x archers-

    21x spearmen
    full command
    banner of ellyrion
    (noble in here)-245

    tiranoc chariot
    tiranoc chariot-

    rbt
    rbt-

    6x dragon prices
    full command
    banner of sorcery-280


    power dice- 10+d3+d3+1 bound spell

    despell dice- 6+d3+teclis despell scroll

    this only reaches 1958 what should i do with the other 32 points
    Last edited by gingerninja; April 25th, 2008 at 09:45. Reason: Points

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    As a suggestion you could drop two spearmen, leaving 20 in the unit including the noble in a 5x4 formation, giving you 18pts with the 32 you already have left you could get a great eagle to march block and war machine hunt. as i said before good luck and have fun!

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    A great Eagle is not a bad idea, and you actually had 42 points, I guess you guys didn't catch that ^^ so you could just drop one spearmen and still get that Eagle ^^ or you can spend it on something else ^^ Your choice, but I am glad you took some of my suggestions, this list already looks at least 2x stronger! I am a little bit worried about your static combat though, after turn 1 in CC your DP's will have the same strength as the spearmen. That being said this is not a bad list, you just got to play smart and wipe 1 (perhaps 2 units) at one time instead of pairing one of yours agains one of thiers, get the spearmen in there and then flank with DP or (and) the Chariots for a quick decimation, and then just pursue to wipe em out ^^ Curse of Arrow Attraction is a spell that would work for you very well with this list due to the nice shooting you have! Tell me how this works out and don't be afraid to ask if you have any more questions ^^

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    thanks for the tips
    here is my army list now

    teclis

    mage 1
    lvl 2
    jewel of the dusk
    guardian phoenix-175

    mage 2
    lvl 2
    ring of fury
    talisman of protection -185

    noble
    shield
    bsb
    armour of ccaledor
    great weapon
    ring of corin-159

    10x archers-

    20x spearmen
    full command
    banner of ellyrion
    (noble in here)-245

    tiranoc chariot
    tiranoc chariot-

    rbt
    rbt-

    great eagle-

    6x dragon prices
    full command
    banner of sorcery-280


    power dice- 10+d3+d3+1 bound spell

    despell dice- 6+d3+teclis despell scroll

    i am going in to gw tomorrow hoing to be playing empire 2000 point, are there any tactics for against empire
    Last edited by gingerninja; April 25th, 2008 at 09:46.

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    Ring of Corin is an arcane item. Your BSB can't take it. I might also recommend Silver Wand instead of Talisman of Protection. If that mage gets into combat that 6+ ward save isn't going to help. May as well give yourself one more shot at getting the spell you really want, as each lore typically has one "must get" spell for Lv 2 casters, and one for Lv 4 casters. Similarly I'd probably take a normal Dispel Scroll instead of Guardian Phoenix as a "just in case" thing so that if Teclis keels over and dies somehow, you don't immediately lose the game. I'd actually give the Guardian Phoenix to your BSB instead.

    Other than that, this list looks decent, although typically Empire has cannons, so chariots usually suck against them. Good luck!

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    thanks ga1661 for the comment i will keep the chariots in because i need them to make up the points and because i have a great eagle to take out the cannons

    teclis

    mage 1
    lvl 2
    jewel of the dusk
    despell scroll-175

    mage 2
    lvl 2
    ring of fury
    silver wand-185

    noble
    shield
    bsb
    armour of ccaledor
    great weapon
    guardian phoenix-

    10x archers-

    20x spearmen
    full command
    banner of ellyrion
    (noble in here)-245

    tiranoc chariot
    tiranoc chariot-

    rbt
    rbt-

    great eagle-

    6x dragon prices
    full command
    banner of sorcery-280


    power dice- 10+d3+d3+1 bound spell

    despell dice- 6+d3+teclis despell scroll + normal despell scroll
    Last edited by gingerninja; April 25th, 2008 at 09:46.

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    Looks like a good solid list and should play well. I agree with ga1 about the chariots though, its not just the canons but the handgunners ect. Chariots are very vulnerable to all missile fire and your GE will if you use him well deal with one of these threats but not all, many empire lists contain a huge amount of firepower. Good luck I play the empire and dwarfs quite frequently which is why I take heavy cavalry rather than chariots. Good luck and have fun.

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